bulk tank ground ?

[glennster]

installing a new 300 gallon bulk tank for gasoline. 110 volt pump. electrical is hot , neutral , and ground . that is all good. should i drive a ground rod and attach a copper ground wire to the leg on the tank to eliminate any static sparks or is it good to go? i am replacing a 300 gallon gravity tank. here are a couple of pictures. and No, the leaning panel on the left will be used for a door .

 

[Dusty MI]

It's been more than 20 years sense I retired as a industrial/construction electrician and the code has changed, but I doubt that a gasoline storage in allowed inside a closed building.
It used to be that gasoline were put underground, that may not allowed anymore because of rusting and then leaking.
Overhead tanks used to be very common, but a fair amount evaporated from them.
I hope someone that knows rules, reads this and reports.

 

[glennster]

It's been more than 20 years sense I retired as a industrial/construction electrician and the code has changed, but I doubt that a gasoline storage in allowed inside a closed building.
It used to be that gasoline were put underground, that may not allowed anymore because of rusting and then leaking.
Overhead tanks used to be very common, but a fair amount evaporated from them.
I hope someone that knows rules, reads this and reports.

its not in a building, its a privacy fence to hide the tank from perpetrators of mischief.

 

[Dusty MI]

its not in a building, its a privacy fence to hide the tank from perpetrators of mischief.

Good

 

[flying belgian]

installing a new 300 gallon bulk tank for gasoline. 110 volt pump. electrical is hot , neutral , and ground . that is all good. should i drive a ground rod and attach a copper ground wire to the leg on the tank to eliminate any static sparks or is it good to go? i am replacing a 300 gallon gravity tank. here are a couple of pictures. and No, the leaning panel on the left will be used for a door .

I put a ground rod to tank on mine. Even if not necessary, it won't hurt.

 

[Sbird]

My 100 barrel oil well tank has to be grounded by law/regs. A tanker driver died a few years back from static lighting the gas fumes.

 

[zuhnc]

Highly recommend a properly installed ground rod and adequate wiring to the tank. Also, you should consider a grounding wire from the tank to the equipment being serviced. That might prevent that little spark at the nozzle from igniting things. Most of them are a wire with an alligator (welding ground clamp, spring type?) clamp to attach to the equipment, and firmly bolted to the tank. A Google (tm) search will give plenty of suggestions. zuhnz

 

[caterpillar guy]

And unless there is a copper or other such spot on the tank it will rust and loose most if not all of the connection over time so it is wasted anyway. Yes it all sounds warm and fuzzy but when the rust sets in like we all know it will over time on a tank outside has it becomes pretty much useless. Non of ours have ground rods then again they don't set on the tank just connected to the tank by the hoses. Old station pumps.

 

[Mule Meat]

Any above ground storage tank used for flammable products must be grounded here. Also flammable liquids must use a hose that has a static wire embedded in it.

 

[showcrop]

Single-wall tanks are required to be located in a diked area that will contain 110% of the largest tank's capacity in accordance with NFPA30. A diked area typically consists of a concrete containment that retains fuel to a depth greater than one inch.

 

[Red Dave]

Check on the storage tank regulations for your state and county. Around here a 300 gallon above ground tank would have to be registered and periodically inspected. Many very specific regulations on installation and maintenance of the tank.

 

[chcase]

installing a new 300 gallon bulk tank for gasoline. 110 volt pump. electrical is hot , neutral , and ground . that is all good. should i drive a ground rod and attach a copper ground wire to the leg on the tank to eliminate any static sparks or is it good to go? i am replacing a 300 gallon gravity tank. here are a couple of pictures. and No, the leaning panel on the left will be used for a door .

Check with who you get your fuel from. Some suppliers are alot fussier then others. As from state to state. My above ground diesel tank is not ground but I only have a hand pump on it. As stated above will not hurt to have the tank grounded. A good friend has a ground wire from his tank with a small clamp and make sure the teenagers clamp it onto the lawnmower before fueling it up. Never hurts to be safe.

installing a new 300 gallon bulk tank for gasoline. 110 volt pump. electrical is hot , neutral , and ground . that is all good. should i drive a ground rod and attach a copper ground wire to the leg on the tank to eliminate any static sparks or is it good to go? i am replacing a 300 gallon gravity tank. here are a couple of pictures. and No, the leaning panel on the left will be used for a door .

 

[john in la]

The way you have the question worded makes me believe your last gravity flow tank was ungrounded and you now believe because this take has electricity going to it this tank should be grounded with a separate rod in the ground.

So lets get this straight. You are not grounding the tank because of electricity. The tank needs to be grounded to prevent static electricity from you causing a spark.
Ground the tank with the ground wire in the electric box then ground the nozzle with a proper gasoline hose that has the static wire embedded into the hose.

I will add that tank as it sits is an accident looking for a place to happen in so many ways.
At the very least put some metal 1203 placards on all 4 sides of the privacy fence.
That way you MIGHT save the firefighters life when he comes to put your fire out as it will warn him you are hiding 300 gallons of gasoline from his view.

 

[Janicholson]

The way you have the question worded makes me believe your last gravity flow tank was ungrounded and you now believe because this take has electricity going to it this tank should be grounded with a separate rod in the ground.

So lets get this straight. You are not grounding the tank because of electricity. The tank needs to be grounded to prevent static electricity from you causing a spark.
Ground the tank with the ground wire in the electric box then ground the nozzle with a proper gasoline hose that has the static wire embedded into the hose.

I will add that tank as it sits is an accident looking for a place to happen in so many ways.
At the very least put some metal 1203 placards on all 4 sides of the privacy fence.
That way you MIGHT save the firefighters life when he comes to put your fire out as it will warn him you are hiding 300 gallons of gasoline from his view.

Agree. I also assert the need to get fire department regulations/permit for the installation. Jim

 

[glennster]

Agree. I also assert the need to get fire department regulations/permit for the installation. Jim

jim i called farm service and they will do the install.

 

[Tgrasher]

If the tank connector is coated to keep oxygen away wouldn't that make it last a long time?