Case 930 Wants To Start, But Won't?

[Valdfur]

I'd be careful with the phrase "the battery is NOT the problem" The voltmeter can still read battery voltage (in the situation you're describing) if there is a bad cable or the starter is bad since in those cases, there is little to no current flow to lower the voltage.

As rustred said the actual load test instrument is still the way to go to define the battery.

Alright, that makes good sense. I'll have to find a load tester somewhere whenever I have time

 

[Valdfur]

you are not following one bit of advise here, other than the thumbs up.

I'm trying to, just lots of suggestions and very little time for me to apply them

 

[wore out]

I'm trying to, just lots of suggestions and very little time for me to apply them

You can buy a usable battery load tester at Harbor Freight for $20, a better one for $40, not a bad tool to have around for future use.

 

[rustred]

Alright, that makes good sense. I'll have to find a load tester somewhere whenever I have time

Ur still no following directions. That is why I said to jump it with your vehicle. If it spins over u know it’s not the starter. Geez.

 

[rustred]

I'm trying to, just lots of suggestions and very little time for me to apply them

It’s a 5 minute job. And takes less time than u spend looking on here.

 

[Valdfur]

You can buy a usable battery load tester at Harbor Freight for $20, a better one for $40, not a bad tool to have around for future use.

Pretty great price, I'll try and find one next time I'm in town

 

[Valdfur]

It’s a 5 minute job. And takes less time than u spend looking on here.

Ah, didn't realize that... Guess I can give it a shot lol

 

[Valdfur]

I have a 1966 Case 930 CK 6 Speed Hand Clutch Western Special that I bought recently, but I can't quite get it to turn over. Turning the key seems like it would turn the starter, but it clicks, starts to turn and then just cuts the power to the dash. Anyone know what's wrong?
Thanks!

Alright, had some time today so I cleaned the connections at the battery (didn't realize they were still a bit corroded) and turned the key. Starter turned the engine and no power loss, but when I stopped cranking it and tried again, the solenoid connections shot some sparks for whatever reason. I think I'll replace the positive battery connector and clean the solenoid points a bit more thoroughly.
Anything else I should check before trying to start it?

 

[Janicholson]

Alright, had some time today so I cleaned the connections at the battery (didn't realize they were still a bit corroded) and turned the key. Starter turned the engine and no power loss, but when I stopped cranking it and tried again, the solenoid connections shot some sparks for whatever reason. I think I'll replace the positive battery connector and clean the solenoid points a bit more thoroughly.
Anything else I should check before trying to start it?

Don't just clean, wire brush them, and or sand them to bright shiny then when the whole thing works, spray battery terminal protector on the connections. Jim

 

[rustred]

Alright, had some time today so I cleaned the connections at the battery (didn't realize they were still a bit corroded) and turned the key. Starter turned the engine and no power loss, but when I stopped cranking it and tried again, the solenoid connections shot some sparks for whatever reason. I think I'll replace the positive battery connector and clean the solenoid points a bit more thoroughly.
Anything else I should check before trying to start it?

You’re on track , keep going. I was under the impression u had the cable connections cleaned. Preventative maintenance , periodic cable cleaning is one item. If them cables are bad but some 2/0 cables and ends and make new cables.

 

[Valdfur]

Don't just clean, wire brush them, and or sand them to bright shiny then when the whole thing works, spray battery terminal protector on the connections. Jim

Thanks, I used a wire brush the first time, I'll just keep going with that and get some of that protector!

 

[Valdfur]

You’re on track , keep going. I was under the impression u had the cable connections cleaned. Preventative maintenance , periodic cable cleaning is one item. If them cables are bad but some 2/0 cables and ends and make new cables.

I thought I had too, but guess not. I think the cables are fine, just need a connector. Any idea about the sparking?

 

[rustred]

this is a good cable end cleaner, i bought this from mac tools in the 80's. it does a good job cleaning batt. posts and cables. and the other thing u can do is get a tomatoe can with some warm water and baking soda and stick the cable end in it for a couple minutes. the acid will then be gone. and pour some over the battery posts and the whole battery if its wet to neutralize the acid, them wash it off with water. then a coating of grease around the cable ends once installed helps further corrosion.

 

[rustred]

I thought I had too, but guess not. I think the cables are fine, just need a connector. Any idea about the sparking?

where is it sparking, maybe u have a loose connection. check all connections.

 

[Valdfur]

this is a good cable end cleaner, i bought this from mac tools in the 80's. it does a good job cleaning batt. posts and cables. and the other thing u can do is get a tomatoe can with some warm water and baking soda and stick the cable end in it for a couple minutes. the acid will then be gone. and pour some over the battery posts and the whole battery if its wet to neutralize the acid, them wash it off with water. then a coating of grease around the cable ends once installed helps further corrosion.

Yep that's pretty much what I have, should get a new one though as mine's pretty worn. I'll try the grease too, thanks!

 

[Valdfur]

where is it sparking, maybe u have a loose connection. check all connections.

At the solenoid, only on some turns of the key though. I'll check if it's tight tomorrow

 

[Valdfur]

where is it sparking, maybe u have a loose connection. check all connections.

Changed the positive battery connector and tightened my connections at the solenoid. She turns over like she's new! Just need to get some antifreeze and I'll try and start her. Thanks for the advice

 

[rustred]

Changed the positive battery connector and tightened my connections at the solenoid. She turns over like she's new! Just need to get some antifreeze and I'll try and start her. Thanks for the advice

Holy smokes a month to fix a poor connection. You’re learning things i hope. So next time it takes only takes an hr. Tops. Just totally unbelievable.

 

[Valdfur]

Holy smokes a month to fix a poor connection. You’re learning things i hope. So next time it takes only takes an hr. Tops. Just totally unbelievable.

Yep lol, I definitely learned quite a bit about electrical problems . It'll take a lot less effort next time

 

[55 50 Ron]

Yep lol, I definitely learned quite a bit about electrical problems . It'll take a lot less effort next time

One last thing. Someone asked your location. I didn't see a response to that question.