Cost to go through jugs on an MM Z?

Case1951

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Per an earlier post where I removed the jugs / rods from a Z, I had plans to take everything to a generic local machine shop and have him do a hot tank cleaning, valve job and possibly new rings. Then I heard there's someone in Wisconsin who specializes in MM and can go through your jugs and when returned, they are ready to be installed.

I am learning as I go on MMs, but I like the idea of sending these to someone who knows Z engines, specifically.

Not counting shipping, does anyone know approximately how much it costs to go through jugs? I know it's a shot in the dark without seeing them firsthand, but if someone just had a ballpark idea it would be a big help because I'm trying to get an idea of budget on this thing and thought maybe someone here had it done on their Z or R . Thanks in advance
 
Not sure these guy are who you are talking about. They are one of the largest in Wi. River Dale Farms Princeton Wi. www.riverdalefarmshop.com
I Have Never had any Dealings With Them
I can't help with cost but there is lot of people complaining about not having the right tools to do them. I did my own but did not have to bore them. To me they are simple and any shop worth its salt can do them. I am not an engine shop but have lots of tools the average guys don't. It depends on what is wrong and how bad they are.
 
I can't help with cost but there is lot of people complaining about not having the right tools to do them. I did my own but did not have to bore them. To me they are simple and any shop worth its salt can do them. I am not an engine shop but have lots of tools the average guys don't. It depends on what is wrong and how bad they are.
Got it. In this case, might make just as much sense to send to the engine shop down the road and not mess with shipping to Wisconsin.

I just figured if the gentleman in Wisconsin was super familiar with them, then that would be my best bet but as you say, any decent engine shop should be able to get it fixed right up.

Actually nothing in particular at all wrong with them. Tractor sat without running for at least a decade, so I just figured it's worth the time, money and energy to remove the jugs and rods and at the very least, do a valve job and clean up everything else really good. I think its a good idea anyway, for a parade tractor
 
Got it. In this case, might make just as much sense to send to the engine shop down the road and not mess with shipping to Wisconsin.

I just figured if the gentleman in Wisconsin was super familiar with them, then that would be my best bet but as you say, any decent engine shop should be able to get it fixed right up.

Actually nothing in particular at all wrong with them. Tractor sat without running for at least a decade, so I just figured it's worth the time, money and energy to remove the jugs and rods and at the very least, do a valve job and clean up everything else really good. I think its a good idea anyway, for a parade tractor
I would mic the bores, check valve guides and seats, to see where there at. If all is well,
Hot tank it hone it and do the valve seats. If it needs seats, Valves, guides and rebore well that's a different issue. Guess I lucked out on a Z and an R.
 
Got it. In this case, might make just as much sense to send to the engine shop down the road and not mess with shipping to Wisconsin.

I just figured if the gentleman in Wisconsin was super familiar with them, then that would be my best bet but as you say, any decent engine shop should be able to get it fixed right up.

Actually nothing in particular at all wrong with them. Tractor sat without running for at least a decade, so I just figured it's worth the time, money and energy to remove the jugs and rods and at the very least, do a valve job and clean up everything else really good. I think its a good idea anyway, for a parade tractor
Just in case you'd need valves, there is a small block Chevy valve that fits without much modification
 
Where are you located?? Good shop here in northern Illinois, does a lot of MM.
I'm way down south. I'd have to ship them to Illinois, which I'd be fine with. I'm just debating whether to take them to the local machine shop or if I want to pack them up and mail them to the Midwest to someone who specializes in MM
 
If you want to bore the cylinders, check with the machine shop to see if they have right equipment to do this. Those jugs have to be bored from the bottom and it is difficult to find a shop to do this. Charlie Biler used to sell oversize pistons for the R and Z. Use 1.5 Chevy valves, you can buy them new and cheap.
 
I would send your jugs to a shop that had some experience with MM engines. Too many shops nowadays have inexperienced help and have trouble when somebody throws them something out of the ordinary their way.
 
The boring bar bit has to be special for those jugs. It extends down so it can finish the bore at the top or bottom which ever way you look at it!
 

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