Hay Tractor for Newbie

I baled with a 269 New Holland behind a 601 Powermaster live pto and never had a problem. With that being said, get something with a good power to weight ratio . The old 1000 series were great tractors but starting to get some age. If I was getting into hay now my sights would be set on a 4610 -6610. Old hates the 5000 because he doesn't have one with a tree growin thru it.
I dislike them because back in 1974 when I used the one we had it was a piece of junk. May have already been wore out or something but it was junk
 
Hey everyone, total newbie here. I currently own a Kubota L2501 with loader. It has been my first tractor and decent, but I want to begin doing hay and need something bigger. I would like to get an older tractor so I can wrench on it as a hobby and can get more HP for the money. I am considering the Ford 5000 (Diesel w/out SOS). I'm planning to run a NH square baler and mower with it.
I have so many questions though...
Is the Ford 5000 a good choice?
What else is a solid tractor in this range that can do the job just as well?
What things am I missing in terms of helpful tech in a tractor for baling?
Can I readily get parts for any old tractor these days?
What special tools do I need to have in-hand if I'm going to be wrenching on an older tractor?
Thanks in advance folks!


A 5000 is a good tractor especially for as little hay as you are working with. Biggest issue on these older tractors is condition. No matter how good they were 30-50-70 years ago anyone of them can be massively expensive piece of scrap iron today with that many years of abuse and neglect. If you are unfamiliar with tractors find a buddy to go with you that does know something (not thinks they know something).

For a small haying operation just about anything with 30HP or more and IPTO or some form of IPTO will be a plenty good. I like the old Farmall 300/350 for haying because they are very easy on gas and have IPTO and hydraulics. Easy to run, easy to maintain and fairly cheap to buy. Allis D15/D17 are also good solid choices that will run cheap even if they are in excellent condition. But again - most of this old stuff needs to be judged by operating condition (not paint). And if it doesn't run when you show up plan on that being how it works for you.

I bought a Farmall 350 25 years ago and used it for haying 10 to 60 acres for years - in all that time it had two issues that prevented it from going to field - twice the starter went out on it (the old one died of old age - the replacement died because it was Chinese) and it wore out the points and it took me a bit to figure out what the issue was. Pulled hay wagons, ran the baler, mower and dolly rake. After 23 years I sold it because the hydraulics were too weak to power a V rake and to be useful it needed to do that as my son was putting up a lot more hay than I ever dreamed of doing. It could pull a V rake with no issue but the 70 year old hydraulic pump was too worn out for that final chore and replacing it was almost as expensive as buying another tractor.
 
Ford 5000 is a good tractor but they are a sleeve less engine and expensive to rebuild [block should be board for rebuilding], 3020 is a old over priced old tractor just because it is a JD people fall for the green paint. lots of good older tractors Oliver, MF, Case, MM, White,
 
Hey everyone, total newbie here. I currently own a Kubota L2501 with loader. It has been my first tractor and decent, but I want to begin doing hay and need something bigger. I would like to get an older tractor so I can wrench on it as a hobby and can get more HP for the money. I am considering the Ford 5000 (Diesel w/out SOS). I'm planning to run a NH square baler and mower with it.
I have so many questions though...
Is the Ford 5000 a good choice?
What else is a solid tractor in this range that can do the job just as well?
What things am I missing in terms of helpful tech in a tractor for baling?
Can I readily get parts for any old tractor these days?
What special tools do I need to have in-hand if I'm going to be wrenching on an older tractor?
Thanks in advance fol
Hey everyone, total newbie here. I currently own a Kubota L2501 with loader. It has been my first tractor and decent, but I want to begin doing hay and need something bigger. I would like to get an older tractor so I can wrench on it as a hobby and can get more HP for the money. I am considering the Ford 5000 (Diesel w/out SOS). I'm planning to run a NH square baler and mower with it.
I have so many questions though...
Is the Ford 5000 a good choice?
What else is a solid tractor in this range that can do the job just as well?
What things am I missing in terms of helpful tech in a tractor for baling?
Can I readily get parts for any old tractor these days?
What special tools do I need to have in-hand if I'm going to be wrenching on an older tractor?
Thanks in advance folks!
Hands down the best Ford tractor ever built.
 
Hey everyone, total newbie here. I currently own a Kubota L2501 with loader. It has been my first tractor and decent, but I want to begin doing hay and need something bigger. I would like to get an older tractor so I can wrench on it as a hobby and can get more HP for the money. I am considering the Ford 5000 (Diesel w/out SOS). I'm planning to run a NH square baler and mower with it.
I have so many questions though...
Is the Ford 5000 a good choice?
What else is a solid tractor in this range that can do the job just as well?
What things am I missing in terms of helpful tech in a tractor for baling?
Can I readily get parts for any old tractor these days?
What special tools do I need to have in-hand if I'm going to be wrenching on an older tractor?
Thanks in advance folks!
I don't know how big your wallet is but if you want loader and disc mower on hills, get something substantial. Old tractors are about the same price weather big or small. Caseih cx100 would be my choice. Plenty weight and horsepower, fwa, cab and air. Just a dream to operate. Only thing it won't have is the hobby of wrenching. They are bullet proof.
 

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Hey everyone, total newbie here. I currently own a Kubota L2501 with loader. It has been my first tractor and decent, but I want to begin doing hay and need something bigger. I would like to get an older tractor so I can wrench on it as a hobby and can get more HP for the money. I am considering the Ford 5000 (Diesel w/out SOS). I'm planning to run a NH square baler and mower with it.
I have so many questions though...
Is the Ford 5000 a good choice?
What else is a solid tractor in this range that can do the job just as well?
What things am I missing in terms of helpful tech in a tractor for baling?
Can I readily get parts for any old tractor these days?
What special tools do I need to have in-hand if I'm going to be wrenching on an older tractor?
Thanks in advance folks!
In the not too distant past my operation was like what destroyed mentioned. Two tractors 45hp NH 3010 & 20pto Kubota L2050. Cut and baled with NH, tedded and raked with Kubota. NH273 baler. Loader on NH, independent PTO on NH, Kubotas PTO drops out with clutch pedal, not usable. The only problem with the 5000 I believe is parts through CNH won't be cheap. Probably lots of after market or used though. Most lower income horse owners went to round bales, my clientele dried up. The rich&famous truck expensive hay in or already own the plantation that produces it. I agree with destroyed on the Kubota 6800, most Kubotas from the 80's 90s were solid tractors. If you stay around 65-70 hp it gives you more baler options either in small square or round. Don't know if Kubota parts are still reasonable as my local dealer has been bought out and I'm wondering if Kubota is going green with dealer treatment. You know your target customer, in my situation a limited customer base left me high and dry.
 
This is all really helpful folks. Thank you! Lots of models to consider which is what I was looking for. Also, what is CNH?
 
Hey everyone, total newbie here. I currently own a Kubota L2501 with loader. It has been my first tractor and decent, but I want to begin doing hay and need something bigger. I would like to get an older tractor so I can wrench on it as a hobby and can get more HP for the money. I am considering the Ford 5000 (Diesel w/out SOS). I'm planning to run a NH square baler and mower with it.
I have so many questions though...
Is the Ford 5000 a good choice?
What else is a solid tractor in this range that can do the job just as well?
What things am I missing in terms of helpful tech in a tractor for baling?
Can I readily get parts for any old tractor these days?
What special tools do I need to have in-hand if I'm going to be wrenching on an older tractor?
Thanks in advance folks!
I would recommend an Oliver 1650 that is what we use to bale hay. They are great tractors
 
Hey everyone, total newbie here. I currently own a Kubota L2501 with loader. It has been my first tractor and decent, but I want to begin doing hay and need something bigger. I would like to get an older tractor so I can wrench on it as a hobby and can get more HP for the money. I am considering the Ford 5000 (Diesel w/out SOS). I'm planning to run a NH square baler and mower with it.
I have so many questions though...
Is the Ford 5000 a good choice?
What else is a solid tractor in this range that can do the job just as well?
What things am I missing in terms of helpful tech in a tractor for baling?
Can I readily get parts for any old tractor these days?
What special tools do I need to have in-hand if I'm going to be wrenching on an older tractor?
Thanks in advance folks!
I cut rake and bale 3000-4000 small squares a year. I use a Ford 7600 on the 9 ft discbine and a pair of Ford 5000 diesel SOS for the tedder, rake and baler. The 5000 will run the discbine if the 7600 isn't available. I just baled 640 bales for a neighbor on 6 gallons of fuel. Before I got the discbine I ran a Hesston 1090 mower conditioner. I think the 5000 is an ideal haying tractor.
 

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