International 56 two row planter fertilizer auger

[oldfarmall]

Hello-

I am helping my neighbor get an International 56 two row planter that he bought last fall. I believe this is an early 56 planter. Has steel fertilizer tub and the side markers have shoes, not discs. It has double disc openers for the seed and fertilizer.


My question is that I am not sure if the fertilizer auger that came with it is the correct one. Can anyone verify the length of their fertilizer auger? Looking for the dimension from the ends of each auger, not the total shaft length. The one that came with the planter is 33" to the outside of the auger ends. I have a 4 row 56 planter, with fiberglass tubs and my total length is 36" to the ends of the augers. Not sure what is correct for the 2 row planter? Any help would be appreciated. Thanks!

-Jesse

 

[caterpillar guy]

The length would vary some with the row width I would think so if he has 30 or 36 inch rows it would work fine if yours is for 36 or 40 inch rows then you would probably have a longer auger. They also came in 2 or 3 different rates for application of fertilizer. Low medium and high rate augers. The length of augers probably also varied with the planter frame being a longer frame for a wide row planter versus a narrow row planter thus the reason I listed the 36 inch rows for both row widths. Not sure just where the change would have been but would expect it would be the wide frame for 36-42 inch rows and under 36would be the narrow frame. I would just use one form an Air planter if it needs an auger . I believe they were the same from the beginning fo the auger use to the ned of the 800 or later planters. Latest Ih planter i was around was the 400 cyclo. Since then we have been using White planters for beans and corn.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

To my way of thinking, if it's the wrong auger, it won't fit. Does it fit?

 

[oldfarmall]

To my way of thinking, if it's the wrong auger, it won't fit. Does it fit?

Hello-


To answer a few of the questions, the planter is set up for 36" rows. The auger fits just fine in the fertilizer box and cast iron discharge pieces on each end of the fertilizer box. My only concern was that the auger is too short at 33". Center to center on the drop tube openings on the cast iron pieces is 38". Will the shorter augers push the fertilizer the 2.5" on each side so it falls down the fertilizer tubes?

 

[caterpillar guy]

If I understand you right the holes are 38 inches center apart and the auger is only 33 inches end to end of the flight on the auger. IF this is correct it will plug up rather then push it out. IF you could work around to get the holes a bit closer and let the tubes do the moving from 33 to 38 inches they would work. I would also hazard a guess the the bolts holding the castings in the bottom of the boxes are rusted up and may break off an ear working with them. You could cut the shaft of the auger off anf add to it then weld it back together. IF you have auger flighting the full length of the shaft it would not need to be since the 400 cyclo planter only had about a half of the boxe on the shaft with the center being just the square shaft in the middle. They planted just fine with no problems in application. I would say if you could get them loose on the shaft and slide3 them out that much then drilll for a cotter pin to hold them out further and also drilll to hold them back at the new spacing .You would probably never get them loose enough without breaking the auger sections or swaging the shaft so they would not slide out enough. even with a press it might ball the old fertilizer dust in there and cause the flighting to split if it moved with a press.