JD 5055E Fuel System Question

[Jim.ME]

Sounds like a compromise to me. I’ll look these up and how I can fit it in with the pump we have and see what they say.

The discharge filter just goes in the same port as the hose is now and the hose moves to the filter outlet. Golden Rod is a common one, Wix and other filter manufacturers have several types and sizes. Your fuel supplier may have a line.

 

[Axtell]

The discharge filter just goes in the same port as the hose is now and the hose moves to the filter outlet. Golden Rod is a common one, Wix and other filter manufacturers have several types and sizes. Your fuel supplier may have a line.

This is very similar to what we have but much older.

 

[Jim.ME]

This is very similar to what we have but much older.

The hose is likely 3/4" NPT (might be 1" NPT) . Remove the hose from the pump. 3 or 4 inch nipple, a 45° elbow (so the filter will be about level) and a close nipple go between the pump outlet and filter inlet. Hose goes right to the filter outlet. Of course the pipe fittings and filter ports need to match the size and type of threads on the pump outlet and hose. That's the arrangement on the ones I have.

 

[Axtell]

I just watched a video by a company called Fill-Rite installing one of their filters on a rotary hand pump they sell. It was very informative. I was trying to imagine ho I would do that. He comes in from top And mounts the fittings and filter and caps the old outlet on the side.

 

[Jim.ME]

I just watched a video by a company called Fill-Rite installing one of their filters on a rotary hand pump they sell. It was very informative. I was trying to imagine ho I would do that. He comes in from top And mounts the fittings and filter and caps the old outlet on the side.

This picture is off the web but two of mine are set up similar with the WIX 24380 (cartridge type). I have a couple others with Wix spin-ons. Also here are a couple clips of the Wix info.

 

[Axtell]

The manual I looked at gives instructions to open the drain plug on the tractor fuel tank to remove water and sediment. Sorry, tank water trap was not JD's wording. I call the area a trap, from the picture it looks like it is a low spot in the tank which would collect such.

What are the John Deere publication numbers of the manuals you have? with at least the publication number (complete alpha and numeric) of the operator's manual we could find the same manual at the JD bookstore to look at.

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[Jim.ME]

I was looking at a different Operator's manual version, however the info on draining the water and dirt, from the areas and servicing the filter is the similar, with some wording and picture differences, so what I found is the same as you have. I would park the tractor tipped so the the tank drain at the low point, as best I could, and drain as described. Start there, clearing any crud from the tractor's tank. Then I would change the fuel filter, not just drain it, given what you have posted about your fuel supply.

I don't really see why they call for unhooking the electrical connect beyond possibly hitting and damaging the sensor it hooks to or the connector itself as one is working on the filter in a fairly tight area. It took a bit of looking in the TM902419 diagnostic manual to find it, that is a fuel temperature sensor in the fuel filter housing.

On the JD Bookstore it shows the OMSJ42016 manual replaces the OMSJ29595. If your tractor is in that MY2018 - MY2022 group, I see they have a Diagnostic manual (TM902419) for those that is a free download (almost $300 if you want a printed book from them). If you don't have it, you might want to go there and download that one. The TM902519 Repair manual is a purchase item in all formats (about $140).

 

[Axtell]

I was looking at a different Operator's manual version, however the info on draining the water and dirt, from the areas and servicing the filter is the similar, with some wording and picture differences, so what I found is the same as you have. I would park the tractor tipped so the the tank drain at the low point, as best I could, and drain as described. Start there, clearing any crud from the tractor's tank. Then I would change the fuel filter, not just drain it, given what you have posted about your fuel supply.

I don't really see why they call for unhooking the electrical connect beyond possibly hitting and damaging the sensor it hooks to or the connector itself as one is working on the filter in a fairly tight area. It took a bit of looking in the TM902419 diagnostic manual to find it, that is a fuel temperature sensor in the fuel filter housing.

On the JD Bookstore it shows the OMSJ42016 manual replaces the OMSJ29595. If your tractor is in that MY2018 - MY2022 group, I see they have a Diagnostic manual (TM902419) for those that is a free download (almost $300 if you want a printed book from them). If you don't have it, you might want to go there and download that one. The TM902519 Repair manual is a purchase item in all formats (about $140).

Have been able to clarify a couple of things. The tractor PIN indicates MY2016 and FT4 version. Going back to JD pubs was able to pull the correct OM OMSJ29833. I have also pulled down TM902519. Thanks for checking on the Fuel Temp Sensor mystery. Funny thing with that is part of the procedure states to disconnect the wiring harness. Looking at the picture, not only they did that, but they removed the sensor entirely. Maybe that's in part to show what it is for the pictures sake? I am going out there this morning to replace the filter and have discussions on installing one at the tank.

 

[Jim.ME]

Have been able to clarify a couple of things. The tractor PIN indicates MY2016 and FT4 version. Going back to JD pubs was able to pull the correct OM OMSJ29833. I have also pulled down TM902519. Thanks for checking on the Fuel Temp Sensor mystery. Funny thing with that is part of the procedure states to disconnect the wiring harness. Looking at the picture, not only they did that, but they removed the sensor entirely. Maybe that's in part to show what it is for the pictures sake? I am going out there this morning to replace the filter and have discussions on installing one at the tank.

Pulling the sensor out of the filter housing may break the vacuum that would form when you open the filter drain and let the filter drain out more than how you said it stopped after water came out.

 

[Axtell]

Pulling the sensor out of the filter housing may break the vacuum that would form when you open the filter drain and let the filter drain out more than how you said it stopped after water came out.

They changed the filter, by just slipping a filter wrench over the body of the filter and breaking it loose. That took the filter and drain off as a whole. Nothing was done to remove the temp sensor connection or temp sensor itself. The filter was changed and put back on as a whole. They did bleed the system and the tractor cranked right up. Not exactly the procedure, but it worked. We are going to proceed with installing a filter on the transfer tank. Thanks for the help!

 

[Jim.ME]

They changed the filter, by just slipping a filter wrench over the body of the filter and breaking it loose. That took the filter and drain off as a whole. Nothing was done to remove the temp sensor connection or temp sensor itself. The filter was changed and put back on as a whole. They did bleed the system and the tractor cranked right up. Not exactly the procedure, but it worked. We are going to proceed with installing a filter on the transfer tank. Thanks for the help!

It is not unusual for things, like changing the filter, can vary from what is written in a manual.

 

[Axtell]

Took some samples from the fuel transfer tank and posted them here. Also attached is the filter setup to be installed. Since I opted for separate filters which should go first? Particulate or Water? The pump I used has a telescoping draw pipe. It should have reached to bottom easily. First time I have seen one.

 

[Jim.ME]

Took some samples from the fuel transfer tank and posted them here. Also attached is the filter setup to be installed. Since I opted for separate filters which should go first? Particulate or Water? The pump I used has a telescoping draw pipe. It should have reached to bottom easily. First time I have seen one.

I would go water first to reduce that contamination going into the filter element.

 

[Axtell]

It’s done. There is a pic of a 3/4 vented plug that I had to relocate from the top of the pump. It’s always leaked but it’s worse where it is now. Is it supposed to leak that way or just suck air without leaking? Been trying to find a replacement but not having any luck. Not sure of the official name, though.

 

[Axtell]

Ah…. Vacuum Breaker

 

[Jim.ME]

It’s done. There is a pic of a 3/4 vented plug that I had to relocate from the top of the pump. It’s always leaked but it’s worse where it is now. Is it supposed to leak that way or just suck air without leaking? Been trying to find a replacement but not having any luck. Not sure of the official name, though.

I believe what you call a plug is a vacuum break. It is supposed to prevent fuel from siphoning out the hose when the pump is not in operation. You may find them on eBay. I got some from SVI when I ordered some transfer pump kits from them. I also think you should use a tee instead of an elbow at the top. Plumb out the horizontal leg of the tee for the filters and put the vacuum break in the top leg of the tee (highest point of the run).

 

[Axtell]

I believe what you call a plug is a vacuum break. It is supposed to prevent fuel from siphoning out the hose when the pump is not in operation. You may find them on eBay. I got some from SVI when I ordered some transfer pump kits from them. I also think you should use a tee instead of an elbow at the top. Plumb out the horizontal leg of the tee for the filters and put the vacuum break in the top leg of the tee (highest point of the run).

That makes sense. I will do that and plug where the hose originally came out. Thanks Jim For all your help!