Little Red Wagon Gravity wagon

[acm85]

Hi, does anyone have any knowledge on this Little Red Wagon gravity wagon? I am trying to figure out what size this is. There is no identification. I believe it was made by M&W. It is a dual bin with a divider in the middle. Thank you.

 

[flying belgian]

I'm guessing maybe 265 bushel. With the top boards I think they were 300.

 

[MikeinKy]

I had one like that. With a board around the top it held 300 bu.

 

[acm85]

Thank you,gentlemen.

 

[spacechem]

Hi, does anyone have any knowledge on this Little Red Wagon gravity wagon? I am trying to figure out what size this is. There is no identification. I believe it was made by M&W. It is a dual bin with a divider in the middle. Thank you.
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Whoa! Just because someone painted three words on the side doesn't make it the M&W product! Google Images shows the real McCoys were all-steel construction, not the wooden stringers shown.

A further concern is that the wood stringers appear to not reach the rear bolster. The new(ish) chain makes me wonder if this box has ever been actually used on this gear.

You mentioned a divider. Unless said divider is somehow offset (and even if it is), I can't see how it would be useful as there's only one door.

Mismatched tires, rust, and generally sad condition would put me off this one.

 

[Loosehandle]

Whoa! Just because someone painted three words on the side doesn't make it the M&W product! Google Images shows the real McCoys were all-steel construction, not the wooden stringers shown.

A further concern is that the wood stringers appear to not reach the rear bolster. The new(ish) chain makes me wonder if this box has ever been actually used on this gear.

You mentioned a divider. Unless said divider is somehow offset (and even if it is), I can't see how it would be useful as there's only one door.

Mismatched tires, rust, and generally sad condition would put me off this one.

Yes it looks like a Kory to me

 

[acm85]

Whoa! Just because someone painted three words on the side doesn't make it the M&W product! Google Images shows the real McCoys were all-steel construction, not the wooden stringers shown.

A further concern is that the wood stringers appear to not reach the rear bolster. The new(ish) chain makes me wonder if this box has ever been actually used on this gear.

You mentioned a divider. Unless said divider is somehow offset (and even if it is), I can't see how it would be useful as there's only one door.

Mismatched tires, rust, and generally sad condition would put me off this one.

Thanks for point out the rear

Whoa! Just because someone painted three words on the side doesn't make it the M&W product! Google Images shows the real McCoys were all-steel construction, not the wooden stringers shown.

A further concern is that the wood stringers appear to not reach the rear bolster. The new(ish) chain makes me wonder if this box has ever been actually used on this gear.

You mentioned a divider. Unless said divider is somehow offset (and even if it is), I can't see how it would be useful as there's only one door.

Mismatched tires, rust, and generally sad condition would put me off this one.

Thanks for pointing out the short stringer.I passed on this one.I do have a question in regards to the the purpose of the chains on these older wagons?Is this to allow a small amount of flex?I have noticed some with chains on one end and not bolted through the main frame.I found a 230 Unverferth but I want to make sure i am restoring the stringers correctly.

 

[m16ty]

Thanks for point out the rear

Thanks for pointing out the short stringer.I passed on this one.I do have a question in regards to the the purpose of the chains on these older wagons?Is this to allow a small amount of flex?I have noticed some with chains on one end and not bolted through the main frame.I found a 230 Unverferth but I want to make sure i am restoring the stringers correctly.

The one in the pic is going to need some work before you can use it. Still would consider it if priced right.

As far as the chains holding the bed on the running gear, it is for flex. One end needs to be bolted so the bed doesn't fall off, but you must just loosely chain the other to allow for flex. If you bolt the bed down solid you will break something when loaded and going over uneven ground.

 

[caterpillar guy]

Looks more like a Killbros to me with the rod made ladder and that support frame across the rear under the box. either way just like Spacechem said red paint doesn't make it so. The axle/bolster should be setting about where that piece of wood is fastened to the side of the timber under it there.

 

[casecollectorsc]

Yes it looks like a Kory to me

I have a Kory...this one is not.

 

[Brownie450]

Cat Guy is right with Kilbros. We have a couple of them
& had to replace the stringers on both. They must have
gotten pretty crummy grade of 4X8s from the sawmill to
make those stringers. We've had to gusset most of the
corners as well.
Not your Cadillac wagon.
Jim

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Thanks for point out the rear

Thanks for pointing out the short stringer.I passed on this one.I do have a question in regards to the the purpose of the chains on these older wagons?Is this to allow a small amount of flex?I have noticed some with chains on one end and not bolted through the main frame.I found a 230 Unverferth but I want to make sure i am restoring the stringers correctly.

You do realize that the reach on the running gear can be shortened, right?

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Cat Guy is right with Kilbros. We have a couple of them
& had to replace the stringers on both. They must have
gotten pretty crummy grade of 4X8s from the sawmill to
make those stringers. We've had to gusset most of the
corners as well.
Not your Cadillac wagon.
Jim

Unless this is a VERY old wagon and Killbros changed their design, they do not have a flat vertical "slab" side like that. The side with the opening tapers in slightly on a Killbros, like the orange wagon behind it.

I would almost have to say this "Little Red Wagon" is shop built. The old Killbros we had for a fertilizer tender was so rusty the only things left useable were the stringers and the ladders...

The red wagon is also missing the bracing that a Killbros would have. This is a classic Killbros 350:

 

[m16ty]

You do realize that the reach on the running gear can be shortened, right?

That running gear is probably as short as it will go, or whoever that is selling it would have already shortened it. Of course you can always take the running gear apart and shorten the coupling pole and drill a new hole if needed.

 

[Brownie450]

Our wagons are VERY old & are only the 165 bu. size.
This wagon pictured has the slanted door like another
of ours which is a later model. It has a Dakon gear, which
is not in what you would call the Cadillac of gears area.
Jim

 

[Timmycornpicker]

Unless this is a VERY old wagon and Killbros changed their design, they do not have a flat vertical "slab" side like that. The side with the opening tapers in slightly on a Killbros, like the orange wagon behind it.

I would almost have to say this "Little Red Wagon" is shop built. The old Killbros we had for a fertilizer tender was so rusty the only things left useable were the stringers and the ladders...

The red wagon is also missing the bracing that a Killbros would have. This is a classic Killbros 350:
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It is an early 165 bu. Killbros. I had one that despite the rust, I could still see where the graphics had been painted on, not decaled. It was originally on a David Bradley running gear that was fine for ear corn but not heavy enough for soybeans or shelled corn, so it got put on a heavier New Holland gear. The rust behind the channels and the cracks in the corners eventually got so bad I had to put it out of its misery.

 

[flying belgian]

You do realize that the reach on the running gear can be shortened, right?

I would bet that setup never hauled a kernel of corn. He probably bought that box on an auction for $25 He had no way to haul it home so some guy there that bought the gear for $75 said maybe we can set your box on my gear and I have to go past your place home so I will haul it for $10 so when they got to his place they had a couple beers. Next the gear guy said you know what I don't want that gear I just bought it because that sounded cheap. You give me my 75 dollars and you can have the gear. Sounds good to me so they pulled the pin and he went home. I'm just sure that's the way it went.

 

[Alvin 41]

Hi, does anyone have any knowledge on this Little Red Wagon gravity wagon? I am trying to figure out what size this is. There is no identification. I believe it was made by M&W. It is a dual bin with a divider in the middle. Thank you.
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The M&W's that I had were much longer with two doors ,one on each side of dived ,with all steel frame and on a M&W wagon .Held over 400 bu with extensions.