Massey 240 not starting

[5urv3y0r]

I use a right angle wrench for bleeding.

Thank you for your post Dieseltech, can you share a photo of the right angle wrench you refer to? The clawfoot and stubby wrenches were a no-go. and the Harbor Freight angle head wrenches were sold as a set for $79. Too much to spend for needing only one size

 

[Dieseltech]

Thank you for your post Dieseltech, can you share a photo of the right angle wrench you refer to? The clawfoot and stubby wrenches were a no-go. and the Harbor Freight angle head wrenches were sold as a set for $79. Too much to spend for needing only one size

Mine is a Snap On set bought years ago, most Perkins use 5/8 inch wrench size, but some use 11/16 inch nuts too.

 

[5urv3y0r]

Mine is a Snap On set bought years ago, most Perkins use 5/8 inch wrench size, but some use 11/16 inch nuts too.

Is this what you are referring to?

 

[Jim.ME]

Is this what you are referring to?

Yes, that is an angle head wrench

 

[5urv3y0r]

Yes, that is an angle head wrench

Ok Jim.ME, I have bled the lines in the correct order and got fuel to run without bubbles. The only thing I am seeing now is no fuel emanating from the high pressure fuel lines leading to injectors 1 and 3. Where am I going wrong?

 

[Dieseltech]

Ok Jim.ME, I have bled the lines in the correct order and got fuel to run without bubbles. The only thing I am seeing now is no fuel emanating from the high pressure fuel lines leading to injectors 1 and 3. Where am I going wrong?

Engine MUST BE CRANKING OVER with those line nuts loose to get fuel to injectors as if starting engine. make sure the fuel stop cable is pushed in also.

 

[5urv3y0r]

Engine MUST BE CRANKING OVER with those line nuts loose to get fuel to injectors as if starting engine. make sure the fuel stop cable is pushed in also.

We had been cranking for between 30 seconds and a minute and still nothing. Keep going?

 

[5urv3y0r]

We had been cranking for between 30 seconds and a minute and still nothing. Keep going?

@Dieseltech, at the suggestion of Jim.ME, we cranked the engine with the high pressure nuts loosened, no fuel to the injectors. We also towed the tractor for about a 1/4 mile (not sure whether we were to pull while in gear) to speed along the bleeding of air from the high pressure lines but to no avail. Do you have nay other suggestions short of pulling the fuel injector pump off and sending it off for repair?

 

[Jim.ME]

@Dieseltech, at the suggestion of Jim.ME, we cranked the engine with the high pressure nuts loosened, no fuel to the injectors. We also towed the tractor for about a 1/4 mile (not sure whether we were to pull while in gear) to speed along the bleeding of air from the high pressure lines but to no avail. Do you have nay other suggestions short of pulling the fuel injector pump off and sending it off for repair?

Please don't tell me you just towed it around in neutral. You would need to have it in gear and the clutch out to turn the engine, which was the purpose of towing it! Just like tow starting it.

 

[5urv3y0r]

Please don't tell me you just towed it around in neutral. You would need to have it in gear and the clutch out to turn the engine, which was the purpose of towing it! Just like tow starting it.

OK, I won't tell you that, But, we just took it for another spin for about 3/4 of a mile and still nothing

 

[Jim.ME]

OK, I won't tell you that, But, we just took it for another spin for about 3/4 of a mile and still nothing

Ok, wait to see what Dieseltech says, he might have something else to try, but the contamination may have plugged inside the pump when it quit.

 

[5urv3y0r]

Ok, wait to see what Dieseltech says, he might have something else to try, but the contamination may have plugged inside the pump when it quit.

Thanks, standing by

 

[Dieseltech]

Thanks, standing by

I sure hope there was no trash that got into the injection pump and seized the hydraulic head if the tank was not in good condition. Remove the two bolt pump side cover, after fuel stops running out bump the starter and see if the drive plate with the letters on it turn when the starter is bumped. If it doesn't then the head is seized. That plate must turn, if it does the pump might still have rotor plungers stuck and will need completely torn down if there's any chance of saving it .

 

[5urv3y0r]

I sure hope there was no trash that got into the injection pump and seized the hydraulic head if the tank was not in good condition. Remove the two bolt pump side cover, after fuel stops running out bump the starter and see if the drive plate with the letters on it turn when the starter is bumped. If it doesn't then the head is seized. That plate must turn, if it does the pump might still have rotor plungers stuck and will need completely torn down if there's any chance of saving it .

Thanks for your knowledge. Will see what we can find out.

 

[5urv3y0r]

Thanks for your knowledge. Will see what we can find out.

Either way it doesn't sound good

 

[5urv3y0r]

I sure hope there was no trash that got into the injection pump and seized the hydraulic head if the tank was not in good condition. Remove the two bolt pump side cover, after fuel stops running out bump the starter and see if the drive plate with the letters on it turn when the starter is bumped. If it doesn't then the head is seized. That plate must turn, if it does the pump might still have rotor plungers stuck and will need completely torn down if there's any chance of saving it .

Dieseltech, we removed the side cover on the pump and bumped the starter to find that the drive plate does spin. So, per your message above, the injector pump must be removed so i can be rebuilt. Yes?

 

[Dieseltech]

Dieseltech, we removed the side cover on the pump and bumped the starter to find that the drive plate does spin. So, per your message above, the injector pump must be removed so i can be rebuilt. Yes?

It's a good sign if it turns, at least the head is not seized.