MF 245 Hydraulic Lines on the Power Steering Cylinder.

[Jimmy Herring]

Hello,
We have a 1982 MF 245, Orchard Tractor which has power assist steering. The pump on the right side and there is a Power Steering Cylinder on the left side with two lines running form it to the Steering Column.
One line is a pressure line an done a return line.
I need to replace these two hoses. Both have a normal swivel connection on the cylinder end but then they connect to steel hose.
The steel end of the hose is what connects to the steering column.
There is no way to disconnect the rubber hose from the steel hose part.
It appears to be compressed on the steel hose.
I have tried hydraulic shops but so far no one can do the connection to the steel hose part and I am told they can not make the steel hose part for me.
I can not find these two hoses listed in the service manual either.
Does any one know a work around or where I can get the hoses?
Thanks,
Jimmy

 

[Jim.ME]

Hello,
We have a 1982 MF 245, Orchard Tractor which has power assist steering. The pump on the right side and there is a Power Steering Cylinder on the left side with two lines running form it to the Steering Column.
One line is a pressure line an done a return line.
I need to replace these two hoses. Both have a normal swivel connection on the cylinder end but then they connect to steel hose.
The steel end of the hose is what connects to the steering column.
There is no way to disconnect the rubber hose from the steel hose part.
It appears to be compressed on the steel hose.
I have tried hydraulic shops but so far no one can do the connection to the steel hose part and I am told they can not make the steel hose part for me.
I can not find these two hoses listed in the service manual either.
Does any one know a work around or where I can get the hoses?
Thanks,
Jimmy

Here is a link to the parts book for your serial number 245. There are several steering systems used on 245s, so best you look and pick yours, then get the hose numbers.

MF 245 parts book s/n 9A349239 and before

Some hydraulic shops can get end fittings for hoses that have compression connection to fit the old steel tubes, and some have ends that old tubes can be brazed into before crimping on the hose. Hose length has to be adjusted for any length lost when the tubes are cut off.

 

[Jimmy Herring]

Here is a link to the parts book for your serial number 245. There are several steering systems used on 245s, so best you look and pick yours, then get the hose numbers.

MF 245 parts book s/n 9A349239 and before

Some hydraulic shops can get end fittings for hoses that have compression connection to fit the old steel tubes, and some have ends that old tubes can be brazed into before crimping on the hose. Hose length has to be adjusted for any length lost when the tubes are cut off.

Thank you for your help. My dad said that the ends on the steel tubing looked to be brazed.

 

[Harry in Ky]

There are hydraulic shops that can repair lines that are steel with sections of hose crimped on. Not every shop has the equipment and inventory to do it. There is another option, one that I use on occasion. Cut the tube right where the hose portion is mounted. Then install a compression tube adapter to a fitting style/size that's readily available. Make a hose that matches it on one end and matches the original on the other end. These are available in numerous sizes and fitting styles, both standard and metric. Measure the O/D. of your steel line and see if you can find one that matches.

47208 | Flareless Bite Type Tube x 37° JIC Male Straight Adapter | Hydraulics Direct

Flareless compression fittings used with metal tubing These fittings require no flaring of the metal tube to install Using a ferrule ring to compress onto tubing these fittings form a high pressure seal able to handle many thousands of psi

www.hydraulicsdirect.com

 

[Jimmy Herring]

There are hydraulic shops that can repair lines that are steel with sections of hose crimped on. Not every shop has the equipment and inventory to do it. There is another option, one that I use on occasion. Cut the tube right where the hose portion is mounted. Then install a compression tube adapter to a fitting style/size that's readily available. Make a hose that matches it on one end and matches the original on the other end. These are available in numerous sizes and fitting styles, both standard and metric. Measure the O/D. of your steel line and see if you can find one that matches.

47208 | Flareless Bite Type Tube x 37° JIC Male Straight Adapter | Hydraulics Direct

Flareless compression fittings used with metal tubing These fittings require no flaring of the metal tube to install Using a ferrule ring to compress onto tubing these fittings form a high pressure seal able to handle many thousands of psi

www.hydraulicsdirect.com

Thank you for this post.
We are going to check them out.

 

[miangus]

There are hydraulic shops that can repair lines that are steel with sections of hose crimped on. Not every shop has the equipment and inventory to do it. There is another option, one that I use on occasion. Cut the tube right where the hose portion is mounted. Then install a compression tube adapter to a fitting style/size that's readily available. Make a hose that matches it on one end and matches the original on the other end. These are available in numerous sizes and fitting styles, both standard and metric. Measure the O/D. of your steel line and see if you can find one that matches.

47208 | Flareless Bite Type Tube x 37° JIC Male Straight Adapter | Hydraulics Direct

Flareless compression fittings used with metal tubing These fittings require no flaring of the metal tube to install Using a ferrule ring to compress onto tubing these fittings form a high pressure seal able to handle many thousands of psi

www.hydraulicsdirect.com

My local NAPA did a set of lines for my MF 65 using those fitting, I reused the steel lines. The steel line end can be made using one of those hydraulic brake line tool sets. I believe it is what the tool calls a short GM fuel fitting.

 

[Jimmy Herring]

Thank you for the reply.
We were able to get a set made at a place that does trailer work. They reused the metal line and we just put them on last night. No leaks on the steering but now we have a bottom radiator hose that is leaking. That will be a fixed tomorrow.
One step forward and two steps back.
It's ok. The ole girl still runs good and hopfully has lots of life left in her.
A little love and care goes a long way.

 

[marloweg]

Hello,
We have a 1982 MF 245, Orchard Tractor which has power assist steering. The pump on the right side and there is a Power Steering Cylinder on the left side with two lines running form it to the Steering Column.
One line is a pressure line an done a return line.
I need to replace these two hoses. Both have a normal swivel connection on the cylinder end but then they connect to steel hose.
The steel end of the hose is what connects to the steering column.
There is no way to disconnect the rubber hose from the steel hose part.
It appears to be compressed on the steel hose.
I have tried hydraulic shops but so far no one can do the connection to the steel hose part and I am told they can not make the steel hose part for me.
I can not find these two hoses listed in the service manual either.
Does any one know a work around or where I can get the hoses?
Thanks,
Jimmy

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