Paint Survey

allenlane

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Been doing a little reading on paint tactics. How about a little survey. Not going for a show tractor, but want it to last 40 years in case my boys want to keep it around.

Cast iron
2 part Epoxy primer after media blasting or sand/wirebrushing all loose paint/rust and wipe clean with acetone or wax/grease remover. 2-3 coats of single stage polyurethane for color.

Sheetmetal
Same - unless you want to clear over decals for preservation and get a little more gloss.
 
Hmmm,
In spite of your saying otherwise it sounds to
me that you're looking for a show quality job.
Don't get me wrong; to each his own.
Myself, I don't make jewlery out of them
because if you use them they get beat up,
scratched and dirty anyway.
And they always leak again.
I would buy an average quality acrylic enamel,
make sure you use a hardener and shoot the
thing.
Then I would go run the snot out of it.
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Well that's why I'm doing a survey Jerry. I would be tinkled pink if I could get the results of I'm assuming your 8N! Do you spray that acrylic enamel over epoxy primer? How many coats?
 
Just my opinion, but I would not sandblast the cast unless
I was going to remove all the bearings, seals and gears first.
Certainly no problem to remove and sandblast the sheet metal tho.

I use enamel with hardener as UD does.
Epoxy is tuff stuff and will last a long time on a show tractor.
Probably on a worker too, but the cost difference is significant.

Here are some before and afters of a few of mine.

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within seconds of me loading those pics, my smoke detectors went off.

always nice to see Krispy :)
 

I agree on the sandblasting Lawson, don't intend to take everything apart and will stick to the sheet metal. How do you get the cast iron/engine pieces clean enough that the acrylic enamel will stick? Lots of nooks and crannies.
 
"always nice to see Krispy"

Thanks, that one was a lot of fun! Here's the before and
after [b:b1b0f293bb]Slideshow[/b:b1b0f293bb] again for anyone who hasn't already seen it.
 
I pressure wash them first, let them dry, coat them with dollar
store oven cleaner (mask required), pressure wash them again.
It helps if you have access to a hot water pressure washer.
Keep the oven cleaner off paint you want to save or plastics.

Here you can see what it looks like as it runs off. No hot water.

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Well that's why I'm doing a survey Jerry. I would be tinkled pink if I could get the results of I'm assuming your 8N! Do you spray that acrylic enamel over epoxy primer? How many coats?

Allen,

If you spot a valve cover etc., like on UD's red and grey restoration, you know it can't be an 8N.
With 1953 came the first overhead valve NAA (Golden Jubilee model) signalling the end of the Flat head N's.
You can also see the Select-O-Speed handle as well.
 

I see T, been focusing on 2N's, didn't realize all N's had the flathead. Good looking tractor.

How is that paint job holding out Jerry?
 
Allenlane,
Here's how I paint one.
First of all I remove most everything
off the tractor - tin, starter, carb or
injector pump and lines, generator,
etc, etc.
I paint those items seperately.
Then I'll spend a bunch of time on it
with the pressure washer.
Then I mix 50/50 liquid Tide in a pump
type garden sprayer and spray it down
and let it soak. I keep it wet so it
doesnt dry out and use various brushes
to get all the nooks and crannys clean.
Pressure wash again.
Then I take several types of wire
wheels on the angle grinder and clean
off any old flaking paint - I use hand
brushes too. I don't try to remove all
the old paint. If it's still bonded
well it will be fine.
Then another treatment of Tide and
pressure washing.
Let it sit for a day or two to dry.
I use lacquer thinner and a couple
kinds of brushes to wash it down. Catch
the thinner in a pan and reuse. You
will be amazed at how dirty the thinner
gets - ie, still a lot of oil residue,
etc.
The lacquer thinner etches the old
paint and makes the new paint bond
really well.
Then I spot prime as needed. I just use
Rustoleum red primer and thin it with
lacquer thinner which makes it dry
really fast.
I use rustoleum red primer in rattle
cans too.
Let the primer dry for an hour or two -
depending on temp, etc. Then I shoot
the paint.
I think it's impotant to prime/paint
while the old paint is still soft from
the lacquer thinner wash - a couple, 3
hours at most.
Most of the tractors in the photos
below are long gone. I'll make one
pretty then change my mind and want
something else so I sell it.
Wish I could have kept them all ;(
All the red ones were my pal Kenny's.
Shown are a 960, 971, and an 860.
This yellow one is my latest. I had it
painted then had to split the
trans/rear end.
Ran out of time last fall so hoping to
get on it again this spring. It's dirty
now. Would shine more if I washed it.
I've always wanted a hard nose model.
It's made out of parts from several
tractors so it's an oddball, Jerry
rigged special.
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I painted this side hood 14? years ago.
It was the first tractor I painted and
I didn't add the hardener so it did not
shine well and it has sat outside a lot
since so the paint is rather dull.
The rust spots on the top are from
welding new hinges underneath. I never
repaired the paint after that.
It is all scratched up now but the
paint is still doing what its supposed
to do which is keep the metal from
rusting.
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glad someone started this, i have a 8 N i would like to someday paint and had no clue where to start. always wondered to what point do you disassemble the tractor. and cleaning it, the PO took advantage of the whole bring your tractor in and we will paint it blue for you thing. and most of that is coming off in very small pieces.
 
"use various brushes to get all the nooks and crannys clean"

I have to do some scrubbing with the oven cleaner too.
Left that out of my post and don't want to give the wrong idea.
It's not as easy as spray it on and rinse it off just one time.
Not with 65+ years of grease caked on one.
It does take a bunch of the oil, grease and old paint off pretty
easily though. As long as you wear a mask. The fumes are nasty.
 

Thanks Jerry and Lawson for going into details of cleaning and paint steps. I am very impressed at the quality of photos you tractor guys are putting out on this forum.
 

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