Round baler JD 457 vs. JD 458

[MARK ROBKE]

I am wanting to upgrade balers. I want a net wrap / with twine and a mega wide p/u. I am considering New Holland, but also John Deere. Maybe a Vermeer. I saw a couple of 458's and a 457. What are the good and bad points here? Thanks, Mark.

 

[Tx Jim]

I personally dislike the JD rd balers that are limited to only making 5' diameter bales. I suggest to choose a JD rd baler that has capability of making a 6 ft diameter bale & make the same size 60'' or less diameter bales or as do I and make 64''-66'' diameter bales. The balers I refer to have adjustable hyd bale tension & a hyd cylinder on each end of tension arm VS non-adjustable bale tension & only 1 tension cylinder which puts extra stain on tension arm. I put 30,000 bales on each of the model 467 rd balers that I owned. Also Mega-wide pickup on my 467 makes rd hay baling so much easier.

 

[tomstractorsandtoys]

I have a 467 but only make 5 ft. bales. It has been great with no problems at all. Mine is at 7000 bales right now. I did buy a hi moisture scrapper kit for the rolls and might replace the drive chains this winter.

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Depends on where you are. Around here the ones buying the hay can only handle a 4' bale, so a 5' baler is perfectly fine.

I have a Deere 582. It's the only round baler I've had direct experience operating, but based on that I would buy another Deere baler.

At first I thought I wanted a New Holland, but after looking at them I'm not impressed. Their net wrap system is overcomplicated. The metal they use is garbage, rusts away faster than a mid-70's Dodge.

 

[MARK ROBKE]

I personally dislike the JD rd balers that are limited to only making 5' diameter bales. I suggest to choose a JD rd baler that has capability of making a 6 ft diameter bale & make the same size 60'' or less diameter bales or as do I and make 64''-66'' diameter bales. The balers I refer to have adjustable hyd bale tension & a hyd cylinder on each end of tension arm VS non-adjustable bale tension & only 1 tension cylinder which puts extra stain on tension arm. I put 30,000 bales on each of the model 467 rd balers that I owned. Also Mega-wide pickup on my 467 makes rd hay baling so much easier.

I am glad you answered because I have seen that you use JD balers. I guess a 467 is just a bigger 457? Or are there major differences? I do want net wrap and the mega wide p/u, but the bale tension I don't think I need- but maybe there is a good reason to have it. I have a small, hilly farm, and probably only ever make 150 bales a year. I do feed them, but sometimes sell a few. 4x5 is the normal around here, with some 5x5's. Is a 458 better version of a 457? Thanks, Mark.

 

[Willow Lane]

I am glad you answered because I have seen that you use JD balers. I guess a 467 is just a bigger 457? Or are there major differences? I do want net wrap and the mega wide p/u, but the bale tension I don't think I need- but maybe there is a good reason to have it. I have a small, hilly farm, and probably only ever make 150 bales a year. I do feed them, but sometimes sell a few. 4x5 is the normal around here, with some 5x5's. Is a 458 better version of a 457? Thanks, Mark.

The 458 is just the newer version of the 457. Our 457 was one of the later ones made and most of the changes hade been made, so it's closer to being a 458 than a lot of the earlier 457's. Condition is a lot more important than one model or the other.

 

[Tx Jim]

Main difference that I'm aware of between JD X57 & X58 rd balers is X58 has RC60H drive chains & X57 has RC60 regular roller chain.