Why Red vs. Green (and others)?

[jd2cyl1943]

I just got to wondering, why all the competition and sometimes almost hatefulness between collectors over brands, like John Deere vs. Farmall? We all have the same ultimate goal of preserving and playing with our old equipment. I may have a preference in brand but I like all old tractors. I've got John Deere, Case, McCormick Deering, Farmall, Massey Harris. Some people seem to despise the other colors to the point they won't look at them at shows. Just wondering why. An old tractor is an old tractor. Food for thought for all of you.

 

[gf in S.IL]

Perhaps it may be in part loyalty to what brand dad or grandpa had. If dad only used red equipment, someone saying green is better is then questioning your dad's judgement. Becomes a family honor thing.

 

[E.B. Haymakin']

I just got to wondering, why all the competition and sometimes almost hatefulness between collectors over brands, like John Deere vs. Farmall? We all have the same ultimate goal of preserving and playing with our old equipment. I may have a preference in brand but I like all old tractors. I've got John Deere, Case, McCormick Deering, Farmall, Massey Harris. Some people seem to despise the other colors to the point they won't look at them at shows. Just wondering why. An old tractor is an old tractor. Food for thought for all of you.

Look at the childish behaviors displayed by sports fans...not that they're the only ones...it's all the same. Unless someone can point to a genuine "injury" it's just childishness. I did have a co worker whose father was killed when the seat support on a farmall broke in the field while discing. After I learned that I didn't even mention I owned a tractor....

 

[MeanGene1]

My gramps had an IH dealership so my main tractors to work with growing up were a pair of 706Ds that were great tractors. Our oat and hay partner dairy farmer had a 3020 gasser that we could easily whup on, good for a lot of razzies lol. He also had a bunch of small loader tractors for his lime spreading operation, a Fordson Major Diesel, an 8N, , anmd grampsa TO-20 etc., all worked well, We also had a nice little 420 for spraying and utility work. So in collecting, I have had an M, a Super M, 2 SMDs, a SMTA, a 450, and 330, 340, and 350D utilities, a couple of 9Ns that were rescues, a nice 8N, an 850, a Deere MT-W, a 430-W, a B and a 70- probably forgetting a few.
I remember a Plowing Demonstration Day when the '06 line came out, probably 1963. Allis, Ford, Oliver, Deere etc. with all their little model lines. The the IH line came over the hill. 504 with a 4-bottom, 706D with a 5-bottom, 806D with a 6-bottom, and a 4100 with a 7-bottom. It was an annihilation. Gramps kept the 706D, our potato farmer neighbor bought the 806D (which was still pulling the 6-bottom 10 yrs later with no major repairs) and a guy that worked for gramps bought the 504. I remember when the 1206 Turbo came out, up until then the tater guys were pulling the heavy 4-row tater planters with D4 CATs. On of the more flamboyant tater guys bought a pair of 1206s with MFWD, hooked them to his two 4-rows, and parked them right out by the road for everyone to look at for 3 weeks

 

[Russ from MN]

Every brand had their good and bad features; I like to look at all of them! We have a JD and a Farmall, but they live in different sheds! I did drive/use both of them today!

 

[rustred]

Look at the childish behaviors displayed by sports fans...not that they're the only ones...it's all the same. Unless someone can point to a genuine "injury" it's just childishness. I did have a co worker whose father was killed when the seat support on a farmall broke in the field while discing. After I learned that I didn't even mention I owned a tractor....

That’s just horrible. And to add , them farmalls without fenders are a real safety hazard also. Life is worth more than saving a bit of money to have fenders deleted. His may or may not of had fenders but at least you have something to grab if things go wrong.

 

[moresmoke]

Ford vs. Chevy, Vikings vs. Packers, one small hick town school vs. the next one. Some of us grow up and realize that the sports teams at both schools sucked, some of us don’t.

Most of my old tractors are the same color, rust. They all get along just fine. Farmall and Allis are about the only major ones not represented here.

 

[paul]

I just got to wondering, why all the competition and sometimes almost hatefulness between collectors over brands, like John Deere vs. Farmall? We all have the same ultimate goal of preserving and playing with our old equipment. I may have a preference in brand but I like all old tractors. I've got John Deere, Case, McCormick Deering, Farmall, Massey Harris. Some people seem to despise the other colors to the point they won't look at them at shows. Just wondering why. An old tractor is an old tractor. Food for thought for all of you.

No Fords? What are you some sort of heathen?

Just kidding.

Where I live a state highway runes north and south. West of that highway JD green is very popular. East of that highway IHC Red is very popular.

Most farms will have an old little Allis Chalmers sitting in the corn of a shed.

Kind of how the lay of the land is.

I’m less than a mile from that state highway.

I run a lot of Blue tractors, I really am too close to the center line to be able to choose one or the other.

Both dad and my uncle were very big Oliver fans. As were my mom’s family. But, that changed to White, the local dealers here kinda closed down, and then it all rolled into Agco. Was kind of difficult to follow along there for a time.

And so Blue it is.

Along with the Oliver and two IHC tractors In the sheds……

Paul

 

[caterpillar guy]

I used to haul a bunch of tractors to that bridge crossing drive for about 10 years straight and the most fun was Deere guys they would rather die than speak of most anything else .Some didn't care and owned several models of various brands. I like to tell them Deere sold them out by selling the extra 2 cylinders to Oliver so they could have a 6cylinder all the while Deere had to suffer with only 2. Some would chuckle and some acted like you were infuriating them . All was meant in good fun and the guys I hauled for got along even when their pride and joy had to be next to something else on the truck. With 6 tractors per load most all of them had to be next to something different. One guy I loaded tractors for would tease some of the guys about things happening during loading like it was backed off the front or side but we fixed it and loaded it so all was well. Just a few dings in the new paint. One guy didn't see it till it was up there and worried till they told him it was fine. Same guy had a 1206 on one year and after he got going we were talking and he4 asked about if the exhaust should be covered for the turbo. I said so that was what that tiniking sound was. Then told him I had covered it and all was fine. He laughed and said good deal. We both laughed. He knew it would be taken care of.

 

[urbancase]

to me its all in fun, guys i know good we cheap shoot one another just for the sport. at our gun club when brush beer came out with JD's on there cans all the guys were waiting on me with one in there hand and a smile. good times!!!

 

[GChief]

As mentioned already, it is the same as Ford v Chebby.

And everyone knows JDs are green so they can hide in the grass when an IH drives by.

 

[560Dennis]

Showing tractors , don't find that to be the Case . Most people’s Just look . One out of twenty ask a question.
Most just walk by .

 

[BarnyardEngineering]

Stems from the human need to belong, and to be right.

That, and those green guys are just plain jerks.

 

[Tgrasher]

Love the sound of old John Deere's and have always admired Oliver's. Even would buy an early JD A if one became available to me. What I don't like is guys driving around the tractor events with straight pipes making too much sound. Old men, who can hardly hear anyway, have to stop talking until the tractor passes.

 

[flying belgian]

Well let me settle it for once and for all so this can be the last post on this topic.

IH is better than JD and Ford is better than Chevy!!!

There, what can we talk about now?

 

[Mike(NEOhio)]

I look at all of them at shows. I have COOPs, A-C, Deeres, a Ford and an Oliver and I like them all for different reasons.

 

[DPittman]

Too each his own. I don’t have resources enough to have a bunch of different colored tractors so I stick with my Molines and enjoy them very much.
I have noticed that John Deere people tend to more disparaging when it comes to different tractors but it ain’t just them. We’ve all heard trash talk from lots of people about lots of different tractors so I just shrug my shoulders and go on.
What bothers me is the ones that assume that because I stick with Molines I automatically dislike all the others. Not true.
I do have a Ford 3000 with a loader on it to help with things I can’t do anymore. Gotta have something around here that works

 

[DRussell]

Well let me settle it for once and for all so this can be the last post on this topic.

IH is better than JD and Ford is better than Chevy!!!

There, what can we talk about now?

IH is better than the JD 1010 sure, not so much the other JDs.

I'll agree with you on the Ford vs Chevy.

 

[Not db4600]

Well let me settle it for once and for all so this can be the last post on this topic.

IH is better than JD and Ford is better than Chevy!!!

There, what can we talk about now?

Brown Swiss v. Guernsey?

 

[greenmech]

How is the JD B coming along? Ron MN