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346 Baler..... Any baler men?


 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 2:15 pm    Post subject: 346 Baler..... Any baler men? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Bought a nice 346 1980 Baler last year and has worked great! until today....wire tie- seems to want to attach a 8-10 bale on the back of another bale then it will mess up and wrap wire around the bale-hook shaft..... any help for me? Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 346 Baler..... Any baler men? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Start by making sure all the wire guide rollers are free to turn and have no flat spots worn into them.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 12, 2021 7:38 pm    Post subject: Re: 346 Baler..... Any baler men? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

yes I did and lubricated them. Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:54 am    Post subject: Re: 346 Baler..... Any baler men? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Are you stating baler will put wire around an 8''-10'' thick block of hay after tying a regular bale? If that's correct the bale measuring arm isn't dropping to the adjustment stop after bale has been tied. Is spring(key 4) present or AWOL? It's also possible measuring wheel brackets(key 5) are slide a little to far to the rear. How much contact area does arm(key12) have with needle lift trip dog(key 4)?




 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 3:57 am    Post subject: Re: 346 Baler..... Any baler men? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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(quoted from post at 23:38:37 06/12/21) yes I did and lubricated them. Thanks


I was taught lubricating wire guide rollers wasn't a very good practice because the lubricant attracts dirt which contributes to stuck rollers
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: 346 Baler..... Any baler men? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like the cutter blocks are bad, and not shearing the wire,, we use to run a 346 wire back in the 80's, I would change out the cutters and check all the roller each year,,drop the twister shaft out and sand the wear grooves off of them, and always poured about a cupful of oil into each roll of wire,, seemed to make things work well,, I know a bit of oil will attract some dirt,,but the lube is still well worth doing.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 6:43 am    Post subject: Re: 346 Baler..... Any baler men? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Until last yr when I sold my JD 347 wire tie baler I always put some extra oil on the rolls of wire because baling wire is packaged with oil than it was 40 yrs ago.

This post was edited by Tx Jim on 06/13/2021 at 07:45 am.

 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 1:20 pm    Post subject: Re: 346 Baler..... Any baler men? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I can try the oil- motor oil? 15/40 ok? Also Im not sure about key this and key that and drop dogs here and there...sounds like
a song that Snoop Dog would write! I bought this off of Big Iron from a gentleman is TX last year...was this you sir? I think I
did talk to you on the phone but bought a different baler. Smile Anyway yes 10 bale tied to end of bale....Im baling Oats today and
working for the time being.... I will study all this more tonight...thanks a bunch guys!
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 13, 2021 2:40 pm    Post subject: Re: 346 Baler..... Any baler men? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I remember conversing with you. After you purchased your baler on Big Iron I sold my 347 locally.

The key # is referencing a particular part identified in a parts photo that I posted.

For clarification if I understand you correctly your bales are staying connected by stems of hay after leaving bale chamber. If that's correct then I think plunger head & stationary have too much clearance between them.

To move plungerhead closer to stationary knife loosen bolts under balecase retaining LH bottom guide & utilize 3 jack bolts to move guide & plungerhead closer to pickup attachment.
 
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