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Dopp Creek
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 11:39 am    Post subject: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm trying to replace the crunchy old hoses that supply the remotes on my 5000. Two local hose shops say they can't find banjo fittings this thick. They are .875 thick with a .625 bore. Can someone help identify what it is I need?

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I believe you can get the hose assembly from Messicks. Also the fitting seems to be available online if you know what to search for, below is an example link. (I have a Weatherhead crimper so I'm used to searching for odd fittings). Heck I could probably cut the old crimp collar off and use a crimp collar from discount hydraulic hose but I don't think a commercial hose place would do that because of liability.
Ford banjo fitting

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The banjo bolt itself is listed as 9/16" - 18 x .62". Part number 311113.

The o-ring that goes under the head of the bolt is listed as 0.103'' Thk x 0.424'' ID, -111, Cl 5, 75 Duro. Part number 128999.

The seal that goes under the fitting is a square cut o-ring listed as Square, 2.74mm Thk x 13.82mm ID, 75 Duro. Part number 81829207.

The parts listings don't mention the banjo fitting separately as they are part of the line itself, which is listed as part number 231446, which appear to be still available. Partspring.com says they have them in stock ready for immediate shipment, but they are $125.00 each. But that part number appears to be for all other models except the 5000 ag chassis model (5100). The line for the 5100 is listed as part number C7NNB968H, and that one doesn't appear to be available any longer. The part number that's available will probably work, but from the description it might not mount up to the bracket at the other end properly.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 12:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have you checked with your New Holland dealer? I had my local dealer make me a replacement when one of mine blew, but admittedly that was twenty years ago.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Go to a hose maker and using a SAE M fitted hose end for you application, BTDT
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 2:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My hometown Napa had those in stock.
They had female NPT threads on them so you can screw any hose into it. It's been a few years so I don't remember the cost but didn't think they were too expensive. I suspect most any hydraulic place that makes up hoses can get them for you.
My other tractor has the same screw in type so when I needed to replace a hose I just bought a premade hose at Fleet Farm.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There is a 90 degree fitting with a swivel that will replace that style. I keep some of those in my assortment.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't believe that would work. I don't think the remote valve port is chamfered for the o-ring.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 7:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, the banjo fittings for Ford remote valves are available from CNH.

No, they are not cheap.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:52 am    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You are right, it's not chamfered, but you don't use two arms and a leg to tighten it either. Try it! It works!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:55 am    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It might work, but it's certainly not right. Even with only a moderate tightening of the fitting, the o-ring is going to squeeze out and/or get cut I would think. It might work for a time with primarily low pressures, but over time with high pressures I think the end result would be a blown o-ring and a big leak.

If it was mine I'd try and chamfer the valve body port with an appropriately sized drill bit.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 11:52 am    Post subject: Re: Banjo fitting for remotes Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I just had the remote lines off my 7600 a few days ago. The valve body is flat, but the banjo fitting is chamfered for the o-ring. No leaks.
Like was mentioned in the other reply, there is a 90 with a swivel. Much nicer than the banjo bolts.
 
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