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PostPosted: Wed Jun 16, 2021 4:23 pm    Post subject: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I purchased a 1989 ford f350 dump truck that needed some work. I have replaced the cracked exhaust manifold that had the broken studs and am on to the next adventure. Today I raised the dump body and began the long tedious task of removing the flakes of rust that are all around the frame, spring mounts, cross beams etc. I intend to now wire brush the frame as clean as I possibly can.
The advise that I am seeking is what to do next, after the rust is all removed, and I am sure that I have a solid frame? What would be the best method to protect it ? I have heard that covering the frame with a coat of chain saw oil would be a good way to do this. I live in Pennsylvania we got lots of snow ,ice and salt any suggestions would be much appreciated, Thanks Larry
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote


The main thing that you have to do is to make sure that you are not trapping rust under a protective coating. The way to do this is to "kill" the residual rust with phosphoric acid rust converter. I recommend one that is clear. You may think that you got it all but you can't, and if you coat over it you are enhancing the environment for it to grow. Many people recommend Fluid Film as a coating. You renew it annually
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:35:41 06/17/21)
The main thing that you have to do is to make sure that you are not trapping rust under a protective coating. The way to do this is to "kill" the residual rust with phosphoric acid rust converter. I recommend one that is clear. You may think that you got it all but you can't, and if you coat over it you are enhancing the environment for it to grow. Many people recommend Fluid Film as a coating. You renew it annually
Thanks, that makes sense
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 11:05 am    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am going to do the same to a truck frame. I am going to try Corroseal. It goes on white and if it dries any other color than black, then you need to apply more to that area. Sounds simple enough for me to do.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:31 pm    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote



This post was edited by larry zielkowski on 06/17/2021 at 01:35 pm.

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 12:32 pm    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-SDE wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:05:34 06/17/21) I am going to do the same to a truck frame. I am going to try Corroseal. It goes on white and if it dries any other color than black, then you need to apply more to that area. Sounds simple enough for me to do.

been doing some research and I think I will go with a pressure washer with the added sand blasting attachment that I added to it then a big water wash to get all the sand washed away some wire brushing and then the Corroseal, I seem to have a lot of good metal left but I am a bit worried about all of the rust I chipped off with the chipping hammer.
 
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Corroseal sounds like it works like the Extend that I first tried years ago. DISASTER. Good in theory but not in practice That is why I recommend a clear product because it won't have the latex.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 17, 2021 4:14 pm    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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Corroseal sounds like it works like the Extend that I first tried years ago. DISASTER. Good in theory but not in practice That is why I recommend a clear product because it won't have the latex.
I agree with you when these products first came out many years ago I tried them with poor results . but what I learned this time around is that it would be best to remove as much of the rust as possible and then use the corroseal or any other product that converts the rust to just get the surface stuff that is left behind
I have add on venture type thing on my pressure washer that makes it a wet sandblaster I only tried it once before and I get very good results so hopefully I won't be counting much on the converter
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote


If it is requiring a chipping hammer, I hope it is only one whack on a spot and done.

After chipping, wire brushing and patching as needed, I would just apply brushable or sprayable asphalt mastic.
Such as
https://www.pureasphalt.com/html/transportation_coatings.html
Or apply a heavy coat of sticky outdoor use grease.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 18, 2021 4:10 pm    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

larry zielkowski wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:14:49 06/17/21)
showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 00:30:24 06/18/21)

Corroseal sounds like it works like the Extend that I first tried years ago. DISASTER. Good in theory but not in practice That is why I recommend a clear product because it won't have the latex.
I agree with you when these products first came out many years ago I tried them with poor results . but what I learned this time around is that it would be best to remove as much of the rust as possible and then use the corroseal or any other product that converts the rust to just get the surface stuff that is left behind
I have add on venture type thing on my pressure washer that makes it a wet sandblaster I only tried it once before and I get very good results so hopefully I won't be counting much on the converter



Yes Larry, as I said in my first post it is important to "kill the rust with a rust converter. The latex added a whole additional set of problems. The car that my buddy stripped and repainted has bubbles all over it just four years after using that stuff.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Por 15 is probably the best thing. you have to cover it with paint though.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 19, 2021 10:16 am    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Got the same year Ohio truck . Frame is rusted through in several spots forward of rear shackles if memory serves me , I would sand sand blast that
area to be sure . Around shackles for some reason . Holds the road fracking waste better, I say more active oxidation .
That what I suggest ,to be sure ,hauling heavy loads .
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 1:42 pm    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-560Dennis wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:16:28 06/19/21) Got the same year Ohio truck . Frame is rusted through in several spots forward of rear shackles if memory serves me , I would sand sand blast that
area to be sure . Around shackles for some reason . Holds the road fracking waste better, I say more active oxidation .
That what I suggest ,to be sure ,hauling heavy loads .


got that the shackles do hold the most rust I don't plan heavy loads it's mostly to carry gravel from about a mile up the road everything seems solid after i removed all of the loose rust but there was a lot of it. I'm not sure how much of the removed material was rust and how much was mud
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2021 5:33 pm    Post subject: Re: rusty frame ford f350 dump truck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

larry zielkowski wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:42:51 06/20/21)
CVPost-560Dennis wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:16:28 06/19/21) Got the same year Ohio truck . Frame is rusted through in several spots forward of rear shackles if memory serves me , I would sand sand blast that
area to be sure . Around shackles for some reason . Holds the road fracking waste better, I say more active oxidation .
That what I suggest ,to be sure ,hauling heavy loads .


got that the shackles do hold the most rust I don't plan heavy loads it's mostly to carry gravel from about a mile up the road everything seems solid after i removed all of the loose rust but there was a lot of it. I'm not sure how much of the removed material was rust and how much was mud



I have hauled a lot of gravel but I never found any that wasn't heavy, LOL.
 
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