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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:02 am    Post subject: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I looked through the forum and found some recommendations, but let me more specific to my needs. I have an old Forney welder I inherited from my father-in-law. I would guess it is from the 50s. It is no
longer working. I tried a local welding supplier. They do work on them but say parts are hard to get and a month or so to just look at it. Maybe it is time for it to give up the ghost. Here are the
questions: is it worth salvaging? I just do occasional welding and usually pretty light duty stuff. Any parts in (e.g.) copper) that a salvage yard would want? I have looked on the Internet and there are
buzz box for $200+ to $400. What are the pros and cons of them for light duty welding? Thanks in advance.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 8:38 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have you done any simple checks on your welder? I have an old welder that quit working. I replaced the on-off switch and it was as good as new again.

I know a guy who replaced his welder because the old one quit working. He plugged the new one in and it wouldn't work either. A little checking in the shop found that something had failed in the welder supply circuit. I wasn't involved, so I don't know the details.

I'm sure you've done all of this, but I thought I'd throw out the possibilities, just in case. Those old Forneys were good welders - more than adequate for occasional light use.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 9:52 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Like PJH said, make double sure your welder problem isn't the wiring running TO the Forney welder. Those old Buzz Boxes are so simple, not much can go wrong with them. Those welders are mostly heavy copper wire coils, and maybe an On/Off switch, My Will Weld buzz box doesn't have a switch, for the 60+ years Dad and I have used it we switched it on at the fuse box or circuit breaker.
There should be some way to remove a cover and see the internal parts, my Will-Weld has 4 5/16 capscrews holding to top on the steel box, everything else is copper. If you scrap your welder, check the AMERICAN METAL MARKET, it's the Wall Street Journal of the scrap and recycled metal markets.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As said, they are very simple, not much to go wrong.

Typical failures are the cord got jerked loose from the plug or the switch, mud dobbers built a nest inside the switch, a broken or loose transformer lead. Usually a visual inspection will reveal the problem.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:28 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks to everybody for responding. I have not taken the cover off and checked. I assume with the unit unplugged that all is safe inside? Correct? Thanks again
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 11:39 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I don't know if it has any capacitors but they discharge over time anyway with the power off. If it does have any big capacitors then just jump across the terminals to discharge them holding the insulated handle(s) of a screwdriver or needle nose pliers or use rubber gloves of course with the welder unplugged.

I had a welder that had a fuse in it. Look for anything with burned black marks. Look for any burn marks around the transformer.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 1:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No. Never assume anything is safe when it come's to electrical. Capacitors inside this welder hold a charge even when machine is not plugged in.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't do a lot of welding. I have a 15 year old Lincoln tombstone buzz box. Does 99% of my welding. I have a 220v wire welder. Rarely use it.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 2:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Geo-TH,In wrote:
(quoted from post at 15:22:24 06/21/21) I don't do a lot of welding. I have a 15 year old Lincoln tombstone buzz box. Does 99% of my welding. I have a 220v wire welder. Rarely use it.


My Lincoln 240 buzz box I bought new back in about 1962.

Dusty
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks, that is what I wanted to know.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

thanks much!!!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2021 4:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No steel core?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 22, 2021 11:15 am    Post subject: Re: Welder Thoughts Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What exactly is wrong with the forney? Have contact there( forney ) customer service for advice . I would call them ,cause I think the local guy wants to sell new one. Cost wise the cant justify the time and labor cost .
Here is forney number 1 800 521 6038
Or go to welding web forum they are very helpful
 
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