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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 5:14 pm    Post subject: Super M Pilot Bearing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hey guys. Started tearing into my Super M trans. The pilot bearing on the mainshaft is VERY worn. The Case IH website has 3 choices for this bearing. Are they all different? Or same? My part number on the bearing is Bower MU-5205- CL. Does the new bearing come with an outer race too? I appreciate all the help i get here. You guys never fail me! Thanks Darryl
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Super M Pilot Bearing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here is one recent post on this, back when I edited the post some how it wiped out my photo, of the Bower bearing M5205EL, which take the internal race MA5205. Which looks like the bearing posted by busboy.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 21, 2021 9:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Super M Pilot Bearing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here is another older post that covers this as well.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: Super M Pilot Bearing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just BTW, I was advisied by my old IHC mechanic who I bought my H from, to get the flywheel all lined up and give that pilot bearing one shot of grease the day after Christmas.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 7:04 am    Post subject: Re: Super M Pilot Bearing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am doing an MD right now,and i got a old IHC parts book, and the former parts man wrote in there in ink pencil, for the 43 357 D,he said use 692150, i wander what brand ,or company that was ?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 8:56 am    Post subject: Re: Super M Pilot Bearing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

FBH, he is talking about an internal transmission bearing that ..pilots.. the trans main shaft or upper shaft into the back of the input shaft. Not the clutch pilot bearing. Number 72 in the link.
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 22, 2021 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Super M Pilot Bearing Reply to specific post Reply with quote

From aftermarket sources you typically buy the two halves separately. The rollers can be caged in the outer or the inner ring; doesn't matter which.

5205 is the basic metric size for that bearing and the prefix and suffix (based on the manufacturer) tell you if it's the ring or the rollers and if there is flanges or not. There are multiple configurations for roller bearings. Obviously one half has to have no flanges so that you can assemble the thing. Look online for PDF catalog from a specific bearing manufacturer and it will explain their naming system and product configuration. Bower is part of NTN now and I can't remember if they have a Bower catalog or if it will be in an NTN catalog.

Because of the standardized metric bearing standards and 5205 ball bearing will fit right in there. So will a double row ball bearing. Just for illustration purposes, you want the roller bearing in there as it has a higher load capacity.
 
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