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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 1:18 pm    Post subject: Allis 7000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I am not familiar with Allis tractors - a few years back I bought my FIL D17 Series IV and its been pretty good.

A couple counties over a guy has an Allis 7000 from 1976 - seems like it would be the right size for what we need - basically a tractor big enough to run a 6' big round baler and handle a loader that moves
the same bales around. The current owner hasn't had it long. He bought it from a widow woman whose husband had owned it since new or near new. The tractor sat for 10 years after the original owner died
when the current owner bought it. He replaced the hydraulic pump, alternator, starter, new batteries and had the power steering cylinder rebuilt. PTO works like it should and claims to have replaced all
the filters and fluids (except coolant). He says the power shift works good and the brakes are good. According to him about the only thing that doesn't work is the air conditioner.

He says it has about 7000 hours on it. How good/bad are these? I grew up running IH 560, 656, 886, 1466, 1486, 1586 tractors and I currently have 706 to run our baler - it can just barely do the job with
the 282 diesel. My understanding is the 7000 has a 3 speed power director similar to the 2 speed power director on our D17 the difference of course being that it power shifts between Low, Direct, and
High, where as the D17 has Low and High to power shift between.

How reliable is the 3 speed power director with a 100 HP tractor? This would have the older style transmisson. Does this have a true independent PTO or does it stop if you press the clutch in making it
necessary to use the power director to engage neutral to keep the PTO running?

It looks like a decent honest old tractor - it farmed the same quarter its entire life before the original owner died.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 12, 2022 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis 7000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The PTO is fully independent, does not stop with clutch pedal depressed. The early models like the one I had used a dry flywheel clutch, the late models used the low range three speed oil clutch to start/stop the tractor for shifting. The three speed worked fine, what I did not like on mine you didn't dare use Park on a hill as it would not come out with tension on it. A couple times another tractor was needed to push it uphill slightly so it would come out of park.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:30 am    Post subject: Re: Allis 7000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

They have true independent PTO. The red flag for me, is that the coolant hasn't been changed. For an Allis engine that's as important as the oil. Old coolant cavitates the sleeves. 301 engines are notorious for it. If it has a coolant stabilizer filter it might be OK. As a minimum I would get a PH test strip, and if its neutral. If not figure its gonna need a rebuild soon. You'll know when its ready for it, it'll dump coolant into the oil.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Allis 7000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Never ran a 7000 but we did have a 7020 back in the late 1980's and loved it.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 6:57 am    Post subject: Re: Allis 7000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you guys say they're all independent PTO, I'll take your word for it. I ran my round baler with the neighbor's a few times and I honestly couldn't remember. The biggest thing I didn't like about his was that it never did have air. Even baling after dark it was a hot box. It kept the dust off, that's about all I can say for it. Seemed like an awful lot of hood for no more motor than it was covering.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Allis 7000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

He said he hasn't run it much - bought it (probably paid next to nothing for it) got it running and used it on a shredder a couple times last summer and thought it was a lot bigger tractor than he needed.

I would change the coolant 1st day.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis 7000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

have a 7060 with power director; never liked how it shifted, but was ok tractor unti it no longer worked, will not move in any gear; 1000 pto always seemed very slow;
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis 7000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

follow up; yes ; plenty power [yes independent pto; my only concern would be power director. it is hard to know how long these things hold up.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 13, 2022 3:32 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis 7000 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've been around and worked on the model 7000 since they were first introduced in 1975. After all these years, I can honestly say, they have been a pretty darn good tractor. Now, you are looking at something that is 45+ years old, so depending on how they were cared for, will determine how good of one you've got. They were the replacement for the 190XT and 200 tractor with 12 more HP. The PTO is fully independent and 540/1000. The Power Shift is geared like the older models but with an overdrive in each gear, so there are 12-speeds forward, instead of 8-speeds. There is a park lock in the transmission, which I have never had to repair one yet, so they have been pretty reliable. Engine needs cooling system maintenance and that is oftentimes overlooked.
 
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