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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:56 am    Post subject: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looking to identify which model tractor I have. It has a 34A loader on it. The data plate serial number below the steering wheel says 9A 304176. I could not find this specific number. Should I be looking for it between a range of numbers? Thank you.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:12 am    Post subject: Re: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Goballgo wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:56:29 01/14/22) Looking to identify which model tractor I have. It has a 34A loader on it. The data plate serial number below the steering wheel says 9A 304176. I could not find this specific number. Should I be looking for it between a range of numbers? Thank you.


Using a 34A loader it might be one of the 30B or 40B series industrial models, if factory installed. Serial numbers are usually shown in ranges for the year, not listing what the tractor model is for each serial number is. Often there will be several different models included in a given year's serial number range. Your serial number appears to be in the same range as the 230 through 285 Ag tractors built in 1979. A dealer may be the only source to back track your serial number to its model.

Someone here may be able to ID it if you post some good pictures. You may need to go down the index to Site Comments and ask YT Support to enable picture posting for you as often new users need more than 5 posts on record before the spam filters let them post pictures.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:48 am    Post subject: Re: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i I knew had to be somewhere...I actually found it rivited underneath the top of the ROPs roof:)
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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(quoted from post at 12:48:59 01/14/22) i I knew had to be somewhere...I actually found it rivited underneath the top of the ROPs roof:)


What did you find riveted under the roof of the ROPS? Usually a tag riveted on a ROPS identifies the ROPS, not the tractor.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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The rops had the id tag and serial number for it. It also has the tractor model of 40B. The other tag below the steering wheel has its serial number. I dont know why they couldnt put the tractor model and serial number on the same tag.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"I dont know why they couldnt put the tractor model and serial number on the same tag."

Just another one of life's great mysteries. When it left the factory, it likely had several badges and/or decals on it showing its model identity. They didn't plan on those being removed or being otherwise illegible.

Your ROPS is likely the right one for your tractor, but it is possible for things to get swapped between models at times so attachments may not be 100% reliable in providing a base unit's identity.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 6:53 am    Post subject: Re: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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I think I have it mostly figured out now. I have my loader #, my engine # and the tractor #.
I am looking at purchasing a service manual asap.
Maybe you can help with my next issue. I have a significant leak out of the weep hole on the bottom bell housing. Ive researched and it appears that I may have a rear main seal leaking. I believe it is the 2 piece rope seal. However the oil is not only good ole black diesel motor oil, It appears to be motor oil and hydraulic oil. What kind of seal does the front of the trans have and can I change these by splitting the tractor but not disassembling the engine and hydro trans.? Thank you for taking time to respond!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 7:31 am    Post subject: Re: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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(quoted from post at 10:53:06 01/15/22) i


I think I have it mostly figured out now. I have my loader #, my engine # and the tractor #.
I am looking at purchasing a service manual asap.
Maybe you can help with my next issue. I have a significant leak out of the weep hole on the bottom bell housing. Ive researched and it appears that I may have a rear main seal leaking. I believe it is the 2 piece rope seal. However the oil is not only good ole black diesel motor oil, It appears to be motor oil and hydraulic oil. What kind of seal does the front of the trans have and can I change these by splitting the tractor but not disassembling the engine and hydro trans.? Thank you for taking time to respond!


The OEM manuals are available for purchase at: https://www.agcopubs.com/ . Even if you don't purchase, there you can use that site to get the manufacturer's part number for the manuals you need. Having that number aids in getting the right ones if you shop used or reprints.

You can access the AGCO family parts books online for free at: https://apb.agcocorp.com/ . You can use the parts book to see what seals your engine and transmission have.










 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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Two leak sources happen under the tractor belly:

-engine crank shaft seal.
-transmission input shaft seal.

The older tractors had cotter keys in those holes so that driving around tended to knock them back and forth to keep the drain holes open and not flood the clutches if a leak problem happened.

I only have the older 1950s models but to fix those two leaks require splitting the tractor in front of the trans to access the engine seal and again behind the trans so you can disassemble the trans shafts as you need access to both ends.

When you are in there check all the trans bearings and gears for wear/corrosion, and replace the shifter boots, three point draft boot at the top, and PTO seal in the back before refilling with $150 of gear oil... I'd check the clutch pad wear too and replace while you are in there.

Look up the youtube channel 'bundy bears' for several different ferguson tractor tear down and rebuilds -- he might have done a similar tractor to your model. Helped me out quite a bit.

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PostPosted: Tue Jan 18, 2022 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Massey Ferguson backhoe/tractor model? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


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