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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:02 pm    Post subject: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello, I am currently trying to get an Oliver 60 Row crop tractor running again. It hasn't ran in close to 30 years. It was smashed by an old garage in a snow storm in 1993. Anyway the engine is free and I got the radiator re cored new belts, carburetor rebuilt, changed out exhaust manifold for one that wasn't broken, also had to get a new oil bath air filter. I changed the distributor points and condenser, new cap and spark plugs. Got the coil put on, gas tank back on, new dash panel gauges and switches. That was a quick update on where I'm at as far as the engine is concerned. I still need to do the wiring work on the engine and I can then try to start it.

But now to my issue I am inquiring about. The gear shifter would slop side to side as if it were in neutral but it wouldn't move into any other gear. So I went ahead and pulled off the power lift and both of the side shift bars will move freely and easily. The center bar I got to slide all the way forward and now it seems to be stuck. My service manual says to put the gear shift bars into the neutral position then put the power assist on. But I can't get it to that position nor do I know what that position is. Does anyone have experience with these older tractor transmissions? I'm learning as I go with this tractor but I'm stuck on this transmission problem. Any help or advice would be appreciated.

By the way I got this tractor around 2 years ago or so from my grandfather. It was his tractor and he had Alzheimer's when he agreed to let me fix the tractor but now he has had since passed away so getting it running in his honor will mean a lot to me. He always said he was going to fix it for the last 20 years but he never got around to getting it done. Thanks sorry for being so lengthy.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 3:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Check the detents.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Could you explain what they are? I've never been in a tractor transmission before. I will do some research on them thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Does the shift lever have a bend or is it straight?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It has a straight shifter shaft.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Then it should be a four speed (forward gear) transmission. I don't know if any of this will help, but you basically have three neutrals with the center neutral stopping the belt. Your shift pattern should be the upper left pattern shown here:


 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes it's a 4 speed. Thanks for the info. But I need to figure out how to get that center shift bar to move back towards the back end of the tractor. I was able to slide it forward and can't get it to slide back. And then I need to know what position to have the shifter bars in before I put the power lift back on so it will shift correctly. This is the information I'm looking for at this point. Thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If your center bar is slid all the way forward, line up the ones on each side of it to match the neutral in that area. Put your gear shifter back on it will be angled towards the back. This will put you in neutral between 3 and 4. With the shifter back on you should be able to slide it back into low neutral. If you want to try and move it before you put the shifter in make sure both side rails are sitting in they're respected neutral positions and try slight leverage with a pry bar. If theres a belt pulley try rocking it back and forth at the same time.
Are you sure it is all the way forward and not in the stop belt position?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 7:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you for your response Lyle. I believe it is slid all the way forward because the gear fork that is attached to the center shift bar is slid all the way up against the gears towards the middle of the transmission. But thank you for your information I'll try what you suggested and see how it works out!
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:18 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The detente are a ball bearing and spring on the shift shafts that hold them in place. They get dry and rusty from sitting or the hole can get enlarged causing them to stick. Not sure where they're on a 60. On later tractors they were on the front of the trans. Might try to get some penetrating oil worked on the shafts and work them back and forth gently.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 9:34 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ollie junkie, thank you for the explanation. I did spray some pb blaster onto the shafts I will try working them again after it soaks.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 10:30 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here's some pics from a IT manual. Hope you can see it. One pic shows detents. Hope you can make sense of it.



 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 11:29 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks. I was out trying to move that center shift bar and now all of the shift bars are stuck. I didn't do anything to it besides take off the power lift and look inside. Yesterday the outside shift bars were moving freely and easily but now I can't move any of them. Anyone know what caused this?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Let me just add that the only difference between today and yesterday is that it was in the single digits and low teens for temperature outside today. Yesterday was lower 30s could the cold weather maybe be the issue?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 2:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver 60 Row Crop Transmission issue. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, if there's moisture in your trans it could freeze. Especially if it's in the detent balls.
 
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