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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:45 pm    Post subject: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a 1968 Oliver that seems to be stuck in gear. When I let up on the clutch it wants to stall. The front shift lever seems to go into neutral but nope. Even if the transmission is stuck in gear it should move? It was working fine before the freezing weather came last week.

Thanks for any suggestions on what could be the matter.




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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If there was enough moisture in the trans
when you got freezing weather, its probably
just frozen if it worked fine before
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:00 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is there any chance it has water in the bottom and the water is just frozen?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote


It was working fine before it got below freezing. I took the cap off and there was no ice just old fluid.

The rails are stuck for sure but I'm not sure if that's it. I loosed one of the square nuts above the rail and it seemed to move some after that. Could be the brakes tho I'm wondering?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:22 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Water and 90wt. gear oil don't mix unless whipped together into a chocolate moose by the gears. When it sits even for a few days,
the water separates and goes to the bottom. When it freezes, the entire gear box becomes frozen into the ice. I wager there is 3
or 4 gallon of water in the bottom. Warm it up with space heaters of torpedo heaters blowing in from the hitch with a tarp over
the top. (be careful, and watch what you are doing) once thawed, drain out the water before moving it or starting it to avoid re-
mixing the moose. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My JD430 transmission stuck last week. Not in 2 gears but would die if you let out clutch even if not in gear. We have had cold weather and hadn't used it since October. I used a magnetic heater and other heater on transmission case and now works fine. I assume a little moisture somewhere.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Read my post below. Drain the water out using the drain plug very loose so it can be re-screwed when only oil comes out. If the temps are still very cold don't use bare hands, you can get frost bite. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 14, 2022 6:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You say you took the cap off. What cap?? It would help to know which model you have. They have drain plugs on the bottom of the transmission and rear end, 3 of them I believe. Water separates and goes to the bottom and freezes. If it was working fine until the weather got cold and now won't work, it didn't break anything just setting there. Get under it with a 1/2 inch breaker bar and take the plugs out, if nothing comes out, there's your problem. If you were using it and it happened, it's probably worn shift parts not shifting gears or else a gear is welded to the top shaft from lack of lube. Chris
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:07 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Tim is that an Oliver 550? You could tarp it and put a ready heater
under it and drain the oil. If your shift boot is bad it funnels a lot of
water into the transmission. Cheap fix if you have water in the oil.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote




Even if your shift boot is good and the tractor has never spent a night outside there can still be gallons of water in there just from condensation.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 5:27 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Water will settle to the bottom of the transmission...you won't see it from the top side.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 15, 2022 8:35 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm not THE expert on things, but, I have learned over the years that you're better off to heat the case up with a lamp for a few hours and bite the bullet and go down to TSC or some place and get a
couple of buckets of tranny oil. When you return, DRAIN the entire transmission, put on a new filter and change the oil. The water in there will eventually ruin the bearings and quills and cost one
hell of a lot more to replace later.

As I have gotten older, I became much smarter. In recent years, I've started forgetting all of that smart. But, that's something I still remember.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ice wont drain,only water will,have you reached down into the bottom of the case and physically checked?It
could take a while to thaw in 40-50* shop.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 8:10 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Greg Oliver nailed it.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 16, 2022 11:06 am    Post subject: Re: Oliver Transmission stuck Reply to specific post Reply with quote

J.Wondergem wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:10:44 01/16/22)
Greg Oliver nailed it.



Maybe but probably not.
 
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