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jordan watson
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 5:59 pm    Post subject: 435 baler pto Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The cv joint on my 435 is about shot and I was wondering if it could be replaced with the simpler pto yoke of a 430 baler. I really don't see the unnecessary weight and extra money for 250 bales a year.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 435 baler pto Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Interesting question. My NI 5209 discbine has a CV joint. I think it is the slickest thing I ever saw driving machinery around turns. A u joint only goes bad while using it and I have lost many that I religiously greased. I bet it was standard equipment for a reason. Dont lower the design and function bar to save some $$$ and wind up losing major time right before a rain storm. Because that happens too.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:56 am    Post subject: Re: 435 baler pto Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Several yrs ago the CV joint on my JD 467 rd baler failed on a weekend. I removed the CV housing & installed a single u-joint. I had to grind timing index spines & visually time(phase) opposing u-joints of the telescoping shafts. Driveline operated fine when driving straight but of course vibrated more in turns. I also think drive chains vibrated more in turns from baler drive speeding/slowing during sharp turns.

I ordered new aftermarket front section driveshaft & discontinued my experiment. YMMV
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 7:07 am    Post subject: Re: 435 baler pto Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You would have to change the entire tongue and drive line from another baler, if it would fit. The older design has a pedestal for the drive line at the front of the tongue. Geometry would be all S****d up which would result in early failure.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:54 am    Post subject: Re: 435 baler pto Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Did exactly the same thing on our 435 a few years ago. Used a bunch of more conventional parts to get going temporarily. It worked, but it was very, very unhappy when turning sharper corners. I doubt it would have lasted long like that, but it got us through the field.

You may be ok of you've got large, rectangular, prairie-type fields, but for our small, oddly-shaped fields I would not have wanted to use it as a permanent fix.

I got the parts to fix ours from a local driveline shop, but not sure I'd do that again as I think the price wasn't much different than what Deere charges.
 
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