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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 1:10 pm    Post subject: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looking for the recommended torque for a set of 1650 Oliver rear hub U bolts, 3 per side, 3/4 NF thread with G8 nuts and hardened washers. Thanks in advance.[/u]
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 5:32 pm    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hope this helps. Don't over tighten them. Did that to a set one time and the more I tightened on them the looser they got till I figured out what I did to them.

 
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 22, 2022 3:52 am    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks MSD, That is what I was concerned about, I think I will take them to about 250 as that is all the torque wrench I have. The bolts I have are slightly pitted anyway. I wondered if the torque could have been different for the application than the actual chart spec.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Use common sense, -clean the shaft, lube the threads, use hardened washers, thick nuts and tighten by feel, - not rocket science.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 23, 2022 6:09 pm    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

mEl wrote:
(quoted from post at 04:52:46 06/22/22) Thanks MSD, That is what I was concerned about, I think I will take them to about 250 as that is all the torque wrench I have. The bolts I have are slightly pitted anyway. I wondered if the torque could have been different for the application than the actual chart spec.


A bolt torque chart is based on the bolt strength. Typically the torque value given will result in the bolt tensioned to 75% of it's yield strength. The 315 lb-ft value, is for a 3/4", UNF, grade 8 bolt, lightly lubricated (oil). Since you are torque wrench limited, the torque value for the same bolt well lubricated (moly-disulphide) would be 210 lb-ft. This would result in the same clamp load as for the lightly oiled bolt torqued to 315 lb-ft. In conclusion, yes the manufacturer could specify a lower torque value for a specific application; they are simply not using the full strength of the bolt.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2022 6:27 am    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thank you all for the response, I guess I took the "its not rocket science" route in the end, I used my Mac 1/2 drive air wrench to tighten them and then checked final torque with my 250 Snap on torque wrench, Most exceeded the 250 setting so will recheck after a pull to make sure it stays.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:39 am    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thats where I got in trouble with mine. Every time I checked them they were loose but the bolts were just stretching. Best thing I did was to get rid of the clamp on
hubs.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 26, 2022 3:30 pm    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-MSD wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:39:15 06/25/22) Thats where I got in trouble with mine. Every time I checked them they were loose but the bolts were just stretching. Best thing I did was to get rid of the clamp on
hubs.


I'll let you know if they stay tight, 5500 is about as heavy as we pull, will check after a couple pulls and report back.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 3:29 am    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

several yrs ago,I was at a pull, a couple of younger guys were working on a tractor axle, hub, it was rusty, rough and uneven,
complaining the hub would move and not stay tight, they had a soup can cut and wrapped around the axle, when I told them to sand
it down smooth, the answer was, how it would ever stay tight then. LOL
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 4:48 am    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-535353m wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:29:21 06/27/22) several yrs ago,I was at a pull, a couple of younger guys were working on a tractor axle, hub, it was rusty, rough and uneven,
complaining the hub would move and not stay tight, they had a soup can cut and wrapped around the axle, when I told them to sand
it down smooth, the answer was, how it would ever stay tight then. LOL
Guess it takes all kinds !
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 27, 2022 12:29 pm    Post subject: Re: torque Reply to specific post Reply with quote

several yrs ago,I was at a pull, a couple of younger guys were working on a tractor axle, hub, it was rusty, rough and uneven,
complaining the hub would move and not stay tight, they had a soup can cut and wrapped around the axle, when I told them to sand
it down smooth, the answer was, how it would ever stay tight then. LOL
 
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