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Caliche Regular
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Posted: Sun Sep 17, 2023 11:52 am Post subject: 1969 4000 diesel |
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My rear attachment and front end loader bounce whenever my rear lift is fully raised . Lower the rear lift slightly and the bouncing ceases. Front end loader position has no affect. Any ideas ? |
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Tom in Mo. Tractor Expert
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Posted: Mon Sep 18, 2023 2:43 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 4000 diesel |
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Your tractor is a teeter totter. The 3 point bouncing is making the loader bounce. |
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Destroked 450 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 6:09 am Post subject: Re: 1969 4000 diesel |
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A worn piston seal in the 3 point will cause it to bounce, the loader bounce could be caused by a rocking motion of the tractor from the 3 point |
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sotxbill Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Sep 19, 2023 4:25 pm Post subject: Re: 1969 4000 diesel |
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No. your tractor has the hiccups. |
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Caliche Regular
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Posted: Wed Sep 20, 2023 6:47 am Post subject: Re: 1969 4000 diesel |
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Are you saying the hiccup valve needs replacing? |
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Caliche Regular
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:38 am Post subject: Re: 1969 4000 diesel |
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Are you saying the hiccup valve needs replacing? |
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Caliche Regular
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:40 am Post subject: Re: 1969 4000 diesel |
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Whats the fix ? |
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Sean in PA Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Sep 21, 2023 4:50 am Post subject: Re: 1969 4000 diesel |
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The cause is that it is leaking internally as Destroked 450 said. The fluid leaks past the piston seal and the arms lower a little bit, but the position control senses the drop and raises it again, and that repeats over and over. Some folks call that the hiccups. If the implement on the 3 point arms is heavy, then that repeated up and down weight transfer will cause the tractor to rock, and as a result the front end loader will bob up-and-down as well.
The fix is to remove the top cover and replace the seal on the piston. You should get a service manual and follow that to replace all of the seals and o-rings while you're in there, as well as follow the steps to adjust the linkages, as you don't want to have to remove the top cover again in a few months. |
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Caliche Regular
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Posted: Sun Sep 24, 2023 6:35 am Post subject: Re: 1969 4000 diesel |
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Thanks Sean for the guidance. Ill relay this to my mechanic. |
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