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Mr. T. Minnesota Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 3:28 pm Post subject: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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I have an old Lincoln welder/generator with crank start. Not sure of the year. Are there any remedies to give the engine enough power to weld. When I attempt to weld it loses rpm and will not weld @ a low amperage setting. Might this be a carb issue?? Any and all thoughts welcome. |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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What engine does it have?? I have a Lincoln welder and it has a 2 cylinder Onan engine and it has been known to have carb/gov problems which can/will cause lack of power and RPMs |
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Mr. T. Minnesota Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:09 pm Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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The old Lincoln welder/generator has a Wisconsin two cylinder engine. This welder is in northern Minnesota so I do not have a lot of info available on hand. When I get up north next I will go through the carb and engine throttle settings. I also have another Lincoln welder/generator with an Onan engine that runs quite well. Thanks for the reply. Any other hints are welcome. |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 5:18 pm Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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One thing you can do/try is start it up and then try to move the carb linkage and see if the Gov fights you as it should do to keep the RPMs up |
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504 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:17 pm Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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I am sure you are running you Lincoln but my old Weldanpower has a 16 hp Briggs on it, and the welding speed is set by a manual setting, not automatically. |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:46 pm Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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Yes but as the load comes into play the Gov keeps the RPM set at the correct speed and if the Gov is not working as it should or if the carb has a problem RPM does not stay as it should |
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Mr. T. Minnesota Long Time User
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Posted: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:36 am Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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You may be correct about that Weldanpower. If this adds to that observation the two cylinders are in line, plugs on top. I will look a little closer when I get up north next. Also like you wrote there is no governor for speed control. What should I do to gain rpm under load besides a complete carb cleaning and throttle adjustment? |
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cleddy Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Nov 08, 2023 5:54 am Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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I have a Hol-Bart welder with that Engine. The few times I used it it seem to Falter under load. Since it starts good and runs well I attibute the lack of performance to tuning and Gov/carb adjustment. It has
the automatic advance under weld load and just doesn't power up as it should. Mine smokes some so maybe the engine needs rebuilt but since I tried using it 2-3 times since 1987 a good workout on a regular
basis my help performance. It seem to work fine as a Generator powering a small tool? I wonder if that Engine on a Welder is a little under-Powered?? Cleddy |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Thu Nov 09, 2023 4:34 pm Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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It has to have a gov to regulate the speed for when you strike an arc which means it needs more power/rpm so the gov has to open up the throttle to give it more fuel to keep the RPMs up |
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Posted: Sat Nov 11, 2023 5:26 am Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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Make sure both cylinders are firing |
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Hemmjo Regular
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Posted: Tue Nov 14, 2023 4:31 pm Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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You may set the desired speed manually. But the engine has to have a governor to maintain that same RPM when under load and no load. |
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old Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sun Nov 26, 2023 7:23 pm Post subject: Re: Lincoln welder generator engine powerless |
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You may have a weak throttle control spring. When you set the throttle to weld position the spring pulls on the gov controls to open up the throttle for welding and if the spring is weak the throttle doesn't open up like it need to do |
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