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dewy Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:27 pm Post subject: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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Used temp gauge from autozone...rats or
mice get in there an eat the plastic an
little red light wires..they want the
plastic....they do it to the solar panel
equipment on the job on any older systems
we run into always china stuff..the new
systems they dont eat them,they figured
that out...no installers would buy them
again.....the gauge makers, amp an oil
pressure..havent figured that out
yet...anyone had same problem...an what
are a good set of gauges the mice dont
eat...they dont eat any of the thhn wires
just the china plastic parts on guages an
tiny light wires for gauges......dewy |
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Janicholson Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:32 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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A possible cause is the fact that China (and others) put lead in the plastic vinyl used for the wires. it makes the wires easier to extrude and more pliable. Read {cheaper}. Lead is sweet to taste buds, that is one reason children ate/eat lead paint chips, and battery connections get eaten by rodents. Jim |
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Dingo3 Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:50 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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Some manufacturers switched from a petroleum based insulation to a soy based one. Toyota and Honda both had lawsuits brought against them but they were dismissed.
Its been a problem for a long time now. |
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Eagle Beagle Long Time User
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 2:52 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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Soy based plastics!
Here you go
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Geo-TH,In Tractor Guru
Joined: 05 Aug 2009 Posts: 39231 Location: terre haute
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:06 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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I'm a believer in feeding mice just one bite and antifreeze to drink.
I recently installed 2 cat doors in my house. One door allows cats in the garage, the other door lets the cat exit the garage to go outside.
One cat hunts mice during the day.
The other cat hunts the night shift.
So far this fall, my cats have caught 3 mice.
Bad news, the cats like to bring the dead mice inside to show us their catch.
If I had a big mouse problem in the pole barn, I would install another cat door. |
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DoubleO7 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:15 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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[quote="CVPost-dewy"](reply to post at 19:27:00 11/20/23) [/quote
Honda sells electrical tape that is infused with spicy capsaicin! |
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Geo-TH,In Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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I don't know for certain if spicy stuff is acidic
which might cause copper to oxidize. |
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old-9 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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Interesting note, Henry Ford tried plastic, (made from soybeans)seats for the N series tractors. Not very many left as rodents seemed to like them. joe |
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37 chief Tractor Expert
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Posted: Mon Nov 20, 2023 8:32 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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I bought my 2015 Jeep Grand Cherokee from a dealer it was a couple years old. The salesman was showing me this access door where the oil filter is located. On tip of the engine. I saw the whole thing was packed with white packing. I thought it was some sort of sound proofing. Later when I changed my oil filter the white stuff was a rat nest, The stuff must have come from another car. I could see no damage to my car. Wasn't happy to find that. stan |
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JMOR Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:16 am Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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CVPost-Geo-TH,In wrote: | (quoted from post at 19:06:33 11/20/23) I'm a believer in feeding mice just one bite and antifreeze to drink.
I recently installed 2 cat doors in my house. One door allows cats in the garage, the other door lets the cat exit the garage to go outside.
One cat hunts mice during the day.
The other cat hunts the night shift.
So far this fall, my cats have caught 3 mice.
Bad news, the cats like to bring the dead mice inside to show us their catch.
If I had a big mouse problem in the pole barn, I would install another cat door. | Geo, read the labels on current anti-freeze containers.....it has a "bitter" ingredient in it to make it unpalatable. ??? |
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teddy52food Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 7:20 am Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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Your cats may be getting more mice than you think. Only bring one home after getting their belly full. |
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1948CaseVAI Tractor Expert
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 8:10 am Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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It is highly naive to blame China. Many, if not most, auto wire manufactureres use a soy based plastic insulation that smells like pet food to rats and mice. I can't understand why everyone hates on China - if it were not for them many of us could not afford so many new things. |
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Geo-TH,In Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 12:53 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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I'm very happy they have a door to the outside. Catching mice is a bonus.
The pole barn cat now resides inside the house.
He refused to use a litter box. He does his business outside.
So a cat door is essential. |
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BarnyardEngineering Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:20 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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1948CaseVAI wrote: | (quoted from post at 09:10:55 11/21/23) It is highly naive to blame China. Many, if not most, auto wire manufactureres use a soy based plastic insulation that smells like pet food to rats and mice. I can't understand why everyone hates on China - if it were not for them many of us could not afford so many new things. |
Agreed. It doesn't matter much where the gauges were made because of the soy based insulation.
Not only would we not be able to afford new stuff if not for overseas manufacturing, we would not be able to afford to fix most of this old equipment. |
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DoubleO7 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Tue Nov 21, 2023 1:21 pm Post subject: Re: Dash gauges...china stuff autozone |
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And to add to that, it is not China that is selling the China junk here.
It is the importer be it some little guy or worldwide conglomerate that is having junk made on purpose.
On purpose you ask?
Yes, because we all know that they get returns and thus complaints about the junk being sold.
Yet they continue to sell the junk at least until they sell all of it before the new, maybe improved stuff
gets to the shelves.
And many times, if it was made in USA and a company closes the last North American factory, the equipment
gets shipped overseas to be made and then imported.
So the same machinery can crank out quality if the company wants to sell quality.
So it comes down to better training and or better raw materials. |
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