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Paul Martell
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 4:46 am    Post subject: Still no Power to starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well, I've finally gotten some time to work on the tractor. 9N -6 volt with front distributor. As I stated before, it was running fine then just stopped. Now will not start and no power to starter. Tried to connect a jump battery to the starter with the tractor in neutral. NOTHING - ARGH!
So now have the hood off, and am replacing stuff. Bought a new wiring harness, distributor cap and condenser, plugs, ignition switch and starter selnoid, battery cables. Am going to replace all of this, but am afraid that there is something gone wrong with the starter. Don't know how the starter would be affected as it was starting and running fine prior to dying. But being as old as it is I figure replacing all of the wiring is not a bad idea any way.

Have also cleaned and tightened all connections, but no help. ANY IDEAS? I'm desperate to at least get it running. WOuld pull starting it be a good idea to make a definitive decision as to the starter is the problem, or is there another test I can do?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Re: Still no Power to starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Does the starter turn at all when you jump it? If not, the bendix could be jammed against the ring gear. Put it in fourth gear & rock the tractor. That should free it.

If it's not a jammed bendix & it did not turn when you jumped it, the starter just might be bad.

To remove the starter, unscrew the bolts out of the block & put a nut on one of them. Otherwise, the starter comes apart. Not fatal, but not fun either. Then, loosen the two bolts holding the oil filter canister to the block, remove the dipstick, and keep the starter close to the block while pushing the front of it down and lifting the back up. Sometimes you have to remove the drain petcock as well.The bendix is behind the flywheel; your job is to get it over the flywheel.

To install the starter, keep it close to the block while pulling the front of it up and pushing the bendix back into the hole. The bendix has to go behind the flywheel; your job is to get it over the flywheel. Grinding out an egg shape at the 2 o'clock position before you put it back will make your life easier.

Lastly, while the starter is off, polish the block & starter mating surfaces w/ sandpaper to insure a good electrical ground between the two, and clean the mating surfaces where the starter's "belly" meets the aluminum endbell. The starter's ground circuit is through that "joint" as well was through the starter endbell-to-flywheel housing joint.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: Still no Power to starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If when you jump directly to the starter post and there is no spark or turning the starter circuit is open. Cound be bad brushes or a broken wire etc.

If it sparks big but no turning the engine either the starter is stuck in the ring gear or there is a short circuit in the starter. Either condition means pulling the starter.

Best fix is a rebuilt starter because it is next to impossible to replace the brushes on a Ford starter because they are silversoldered into place.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:23 am    Post subject: Re: Still no Power to starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Almost sounds like you burned up the starter. What could have happen was the soliniod stuck so when you where running the tractor the start was still spinning and that burned it out plus could have made the battery go dead which would also kill the engine. I would remove the starter and take it in and have it checked
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 06, 2007 6:33 am    Post subject: Re: Still no Power to starter Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The first thing I would do would be to bump it on the side with a hammer, believe it or not, it has worked many times for me.
 
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