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Fred47M
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:35 pm    Post subject: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Seen pix of narrow front m with the front wheels set wider. They just flipped them inside out right? Probably a little more stable, but do they steer much harder that way. Just curious? Ultimately want a wide front. Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

yes it will steer harder why would you want them wide???
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:08 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Gene, 1 reason for setting to wider position was having to feed cattle in this area is a clay soil that likes to ball up, also its easier to clear mud and manure from pedestal area in freezing weather with a spade.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:31 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No more/less 'stable' than any other narrow front. I don't think it will be any easier/harder,but will tend to be more 'jerky' as one side or the other encounters a rock/clod,or other obstacle.I agree,the reason to be wide would be for easier clean out of mud.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Makes sense i will probably try it this spring. Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 4:16 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

When I was growing up on the farm, we had an M that Dad widened out the front tricycle wheels in the wintertime. It kept the mud from balling up in between the tires. Worked pretty well. Don't remember if it handled any differently.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:13 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you have a suicide knob on your steering wheel be careful and keep your thumbs out of the way. If one tire hits something hard it will tear the steering wheel out of your hands and possibly make an awfully sore thumb.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:37 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I prefer a narrow front because you have less "Herding" problems.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ok maybe i wont. I am a rookie to tractors, sounds like the bad outweighs the good.Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 6:10 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have M & 450 with narrow front endsee. and have run them narrow and wide. They don't have power steering and don't steer hard in wide position. They can be set in three positions and I have only used narrow and wide settings.

 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We had a mud scraper on ours did ok here but I can see in different soils that you would want them wide
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 13, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Back when I started farming, an M with live hydraulics was my loader tractor. I had to widen out the narrow front to feed cattle in the mud. Even with a scraper it was just a mess that would freeze rock solid. I still have the tractor - I took off the loader years ago and use it just to grind feed. I've been meaning to narrow it up just because I like the looks of them close together, but it gets forgotten everytime I back it into the shed.

I never felt like it handled different but it has power steering. It's like the rear wheels dished in - it just doesn't look right in my mind unless the fronts are as close as they can get. Course, I've got oversized tires on the front anyway for feeding with so it doesn't look quite right as it is.

 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 5:11 am    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

four positions with that rim and hub style--two outside the hub and two inside the hub.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:13 am    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Only advantage I would see is less sinking in mud.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: M widened narrow front? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

DeltaRed, I agree with you. Just a question tho. Were they not supposed to stay on row better on bedded crops, do not do bedded here in Ohio.
 
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