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PartsMan79
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 11:21 am    Post subject: 702-b Special? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My 700 plate says it is a 702-b serial number 8150706.
Tractor data says 702 is an orchard model.
Operators manual does not mention a 702.
Parts books says my fenders are for "special".

It looks like a wheatland or western tractor to me.
Ridged wide front axle. Not low profile
18.4x30 rear tires.
Two remotes.
No eagle hitch.
It does have rear pto.

Do you guys have any better info?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: 702-b Special? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like a Florida orchard tractor with no PTO. Dick
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:29 pm    Post subject: Re: 702-b Special? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Here is my latest pic.
I am thinking there was a change in the numbering that Tractor Data is missing.
It looks more like a 732 Western than a 402 Orchard.

 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 2:37 pm    Post subject: Re: 702-b Special? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yea, it's hard to figure out. I see it has an up stack exhaust. Fenders do look like western special. I think someone with right knowledge might chime in. They made a 730 orchard, did they make a 700 orchard? Dick
 
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PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 4:34 pm    Post subject: Re: 702-b Special? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Looks like a 700B western special. I always thought the westerns were designated with the 02 and orchard versions were 04. The early 730 series
were virtually identical to the 700/800B series which again, were only slightly different than the 400 super diesel.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:13 am    Post subject: Re: 702-b Special? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have noticed this in tractor data, and am trying to understand where it came from. I had a 702B as well, and no question it is a western. I think some of the confusion starts with the 400 series, where the 402 was perhaps one of three variations of orchard models that were built. My 400 western is stamped as a 400, which falls under the ordinary standard number. The production totals for a 402 are very low, so it possibly was indeed an Orchard. I think tractor data used this info and applied it to the later series. 730's and 830's continued the use of the 2 as the western designation.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 2:26 am    Post subject: Re: 702-b Special? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I should mention, the info source I referred to is JI Case , Volume II, by Stonehouse and Brumbaugh. It is the follow up to Erb and Brumbaugh Steam to Diesel. It lists 402, 405, 412, 414, and 415 all as orchard/grove variations. I suspect Tractor data used this info and incorrectly imposed it on the B series.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Feb 20, 2018 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: 702-b Special? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


That is what I think as well.
Unless maybe a 1958 702 is an orchard and a 1959 702 (like mine) is a special.
 
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