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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 2:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Coolant Heater Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bob,

Good info. I agree the in block heaters are great and I would recommend them ahead of tank or hose type heaters, but at least some of the 4219 engines don't have the 1-5/8" plug in the block water jacket, as in the photo I posted. Also I have found the in block heaters don't always fit as the manufacturers describe. Been there, done that. Now I always try to get the installation info and check for the location and access to the location, before I buy. The tank heater is about the best option for these tractors and is what the 2030 parts catalog shows, as Bryanmedlin found.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Coolant Heater Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jim.ME wrote:
(quoted from post at 14:10:35 11/08/1Cool This may help you, here is a photo of where a tank heater was plumbed into one of my 2030s. To get the thermo-syphon to work the heater inlet must be below the outlet on the type of tank heater in the photo and the JD one. The tank outlet must be below the point hot water goes back into the block. The hot water return point to the block must be above the block outlet for water going to the heater inlet.



Would you suggest using the factory one or using one of the other newer models? Thanks that helped out a lot.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Coolant Heater Reply to specific post Reply with quote

By the way I clearly saw two holes under the seat that indiciate to me it was the older model. reo31226
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 7:27 pm    Post subject: Re: Coolant Heater Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What do you mean by newer models? Unless your engine is different than I think it is, it will not accept any of the in the block type heaters Bob's post showed. I think you will be fine with either the factory tank heater or one of the aftermarket tank heaters. Kats and Phillips both make good tank heaters (and cost less). 850 to 1000 watts will be plenty, (1500 watts maximum) no need to go larger.

When you say under the seat do you mean; under the seat on the side of the transmission, or actually under the seat on the cover the seat mounts on? If we are describing the same place, side of the transmission, that would be a tractor S/N 187300 or before.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:09 am    Post subject: Re: Coolant Heater Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I mean under the seat on the side of the transmission. The holes are consistent with the plate on the engine.

What I was asking was I noticed the the factory tank heater was plumbed right into the two ports on the side of the block and the other tank heaters I was seeing looked to be made to be plumbed differently. Unless I am looking at the hardware that comes with the kit incorrectly.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 09, 2018 5:54 am    Post subject: Re: Coolant Heater Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The heater in the photo I posted is a Kat's. I think locations shown in my photo are the best ports to use on these engines, and all tank heaters without powered circulation, would plumb about the same. Some heaters have the inlet port and outlet port both on the side like the JD parts diagram. Some have the inlet on the side and outlet on the top, most of the Kat's and Phillips heater are this style. They function the same, hardware for mounting will vary by manufacturer. Hose lengths will vary on how you mount them. Whether it is a side or top outlet, the important thing is to mount the tank with the heater outlet above the heater inlet and below the point where the hot coolant returns to the engine, that allows the hot coolant to rise developing the natural thermo-cycle action for circulation.

The AR72957 number you got shows as NLA and subs to RE313366, when I checked it. If you look for photos on line at the Green Part Store site of the JD RE313366 heater it shows as 1500 watts and looks like a Phillips 41 series heater, if you compare it to photos on their site. Check with the store for YT as they may have a similar heater.
 
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