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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 2:19 pm    Post subject: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

have not been able to find an answer. did 18th century mortars have recoil ?
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:24 pm    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I don't know much about 18th century mortars but would say Newton's 3rd law would cover that.
So yes.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

newton did not know anything about mortars either.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I never fired an 18th century mortar, but I've fired many a 60mm, 81mm and 4.2 mortar to tell you that the base plate absorbs the recoil. I've also dug many a base plate out of the mud as a result.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2018 6:48 pm    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-steve19438 wrote:
(quoted from post at 15:19:01 11/07/1Cool have not been able to find an answer. did 18th century mortars have recoil ?
thanks.


Better yet, why would you think it would not have recoil?

I'm with Mr. Newton on this one.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

that's what I have been finding. baseplate takes up the shock. the big old ones had huge base plates.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Agreed, UD.

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-steve19438 wrote:
(quoted from post at 04:43:40 11/08/1Cool that's what I have been finding. baseplate takes up the shock. the big old ones had huge base plates.


One of those old mortars is just a very short barreled cannon. Do cannons have recoil? I still don't understand why you thought they may not have recoil.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

cannons move from recoil mortars do not. (unless they dig into ground upon which they rest)
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:12 am    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-steve19438 wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:48:02 11/08/1Cool cannons move from recoil mortars do not. (unless they dig into ground upon which they rest)
Cannons absorb the recoil by moving, the mortars assort the recoil pressing against the ground.. Newton's law!!
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 10:44 am    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

R Geiger wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:12:54 11/08/1Cool
CVPost-steve19438 wrote:
(quoted from post at 11:48:02 11/08/1Cool cannons move from recoil mortars do not. (unless they dig into ground upon which they rest)
Cannons absorb the recoil by moving, the mortars assort the recoil pressing against the ground.. Newton's law!!


It's still a contained explosion and every action has an equal and opposite reaction. Would a mortar have to be held to your shoulder and fired to have recoil?

It's just such a strange question that I can't understand why it was asked. Why would the explosion in a mortar not have an equal and opposite reaction?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:10 pm    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Maybe Steve just wanted to start a conversation (or an argument)
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 3:53 pm    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I did not. since I have never seen or experienced recoil from a mortar?.hence the question.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:13 pm    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?"

Just sayin'. Laughing
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 08, 2018 4:17 pm    Post subject: Re: WAY OT Reply to specific post Reply with quote

hunkydory wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:13:35 11/08/1Cool "If a tree falls in the forest and no one is there to hear it does it make a sound?"

Just sayin'. Laughing


Yes.
 
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