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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:29 am    Post subject: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks to all, heres some more information. The reason for hauling a container is just to get the empty 40 ft container to the back of my property, its in Florida and its all flat, so this will be a one time tug to the spot for two empty shipping containers that I need to place so I can tear down my old barn and have the new arch steel building put in place, as a hurricane shelter and a work shop, my current barn is a junk disaster of added on buildings to a pole barn that the previous owners built,..its got to go!! The containers will be on axle's that I built for transport. The rub is that I finally got my girl to OK the purchase of a tractor,but....it has to do everything. End of world PTO attachments waterpump for the well, generator for back up power. small plow, and disc for 3 acre garden and anything else 3 point hitch that I can find and or build. The pulley if for a buzzsaw. I have to be able to convert to propane if need be. I can do all that with the gas engine. I personally have a thing for the old orange girl we had on our farm, it was a legit three wheel Allis, and I literally spent my childhood on that tractor in upstate NY on a 400 acre farm. I'm not even sure what model it was, I know it was smaller than a WD and it had one tire in front on a solid steel wheel. So I would like to have everything with one tractor.
Attachments (3 point) tow capability (as described above) nostalgia, because I miss that orange tractor, and it has taken me 5 years to convince my girl that I need a bigger tractor, and now is my chance to jump before she changes her mind and makes me sleep in the barn with all my VW bugs......again.
I found a nice WD for sale in Wisconsin, but can't get the place to call me back or answer and email. It looks like it has everything but I cant tell about the 3 point, the photos are not that good.
Thanks for all your help, I've been off the farm now for almost 35 years and a lot of my knowledge is based on a 12 year old boy driving around an orange tractor.

The top pic is of the tractor I want to buy, but I can't tell if the 3 point is intact, because the Allis I had when I was a kid (second pic) had no 3 point for me to be able to compare it to. The salesman is trying to find out for me, but their communication skills are not very good.

I'm also not to good with computer forums and don't know where to put this post to get the right answers, thanks for the help in advance.



 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 6:42 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you buy that WD you will have the find a 3 point for it because it doesn't have a 3 point on it. All it has is the snap coupler arms.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Smaller than a wd with three point would be a CA with three point adapter on the Allis quick attach arms.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 9:06 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Those are really nice tires on the WD. Must be replacement rims on it too, as the tires and rims look well matched, and bigger than any standard WD size.

There are some brackets there making it look like there was an add on three point hitch at one time.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 10:52 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The picture of a smaller tractor shows a Model C, not a CA. The picture of the WD shows a top link connection, but no 3 pt. conversion. You"d have to add the lift arms to make it work. There was no factory 3pt for either of those tractors.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 2:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote


thanks, can you tell me which Allis that is similar to these two that has 3 point?
The only thing stopping me from buying this tractor is the 3 point.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 3:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You can get an after market 3 pt conversion for most AC tractors. I believe the D-15 was the first to come out with a factory 3 pt. I may be wrong so don't quote me. I would think you could find one closer than up here. Where in WI is it?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

From what I've seen on pics of other WD's this unit has the bars (that silver bar that is joining the two side bars must be removed as well as the chain) that raise and lower and the pins down under near the drawbar to have a 3 point hitch. If I'm seeing this right. I'm trying to get an answer from the seller but communication doesn't appear to be an easy task for them. It sure seems to me that the mechanism is there for 3 point, but I'm not 100%, like I said the C we had 35 years ago didn't have 3 point, just a drawbar.
Trying to locate a tractor like this in FL is hard, they don't pop up very often and all the good ones seem to be in the Midwest.
BTW thanks for the info so far, it has helped me greatly,...I'm 80% sure this tractor will work for me,...now to get the rest of the way.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's in Cashton
 
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2018 11:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

This 47 is my real favorite, I'd totally get it right now if it had the 3 point, but it looks like the lifting arms are not even there.



 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 4:21 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thats a WC, they didn't have them, nor the pump, nor the hand clutch. First with the 3 pt would be something in the D series. You can put a 3 point on a WD or WD45 for about $400 or build one if you are handy.
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 6:02 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I was just by the Cashton area a couple of days ago. Good luck on your tractor hunt.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 8:44 am    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I live in La Crosse, about 20 miles from Cashton so I am familiar with Portland Implement 608-654-5575. I am convalescing from surgery but I did call them. As luck would have it I talked to the Sales Person you talked with, Kevin. He was very good and explained they have not had a chance to look at the 3 pt. yet. We had a quite a bit of snow here so it is buried in the snow right now. Kevin did say he would give you a call to give a status update.

My own experience is dealers that far away don't respond as well than if the sale was closer. I assume they see those sales as a low percentage closure rate given distance, ability to look at the item, and freight. Anyway, I hope he calls and you can get your question answered. Good Luck.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:07 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I was re-reading a couple of the posts. Aaron of SEIA points out there was no factory 3pt for that tractor. You know, if you want a real 3pt. you might want to look at a D Series with a factory 3pt. They might also be easier for you to get onto given you're slightly older now.

Just a thought.

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PostPosted: Fri Dec 07, 2018 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Questions about Allis Chalmers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Maybe advertise for what you are looking for and see if there is anything closer. What is it going to cost to get it home? I know you said there is not much close but maybe there is. Maybe get more tractor for the same money? Just a thought.
 
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