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Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running...

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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:24 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Of course there were some stuck bolts in the exhaust manifold, so I made a repair that has worked excellent for me in the past.

Cut the bolts off flat:



Drilled the holes to accept a 1/2-20 tap:





Then I buy these brass fittings which have a 1/2-20 straight thread, and Loctite them in:





Then I drill and tap the inside of the fitting for a 3/8-16 bolt:



Then grind off the heads and make sure its all flat:



Works very good Smile



Cut off a piece of stainless, I'm gonna straight pipe it!



Then I painted the manifold with POR 15 manifold paint and baked it in the oven, which my wife wasn't happy about that at all. Sad(




 
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2018 8:42 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote




Neat stuff. You know there's a difference between "get this... running" and restoration???? Ha Ha.... Looks great.

Pro tip on the oven baking: Find a free used commercial oven on Craigslist and keep it in garage for such purposes. Happy wife...
something or other...
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 9:26 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

scootergmc wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:42:44 12/18/1Cool


Neat stuff. You know there's a difference between "get this... running" and restoration???? Ha Ha.... Looks great.

Pro tip on the oven baking: Find a free used commercial oven on Craigslist and keep it in garage for such purposes. Happy wife...
something or other...


Sure turning into a resto! I think I found a free oven on Craigslist. Smile

Today was an excellent day though. I finished lapping the valves, my father is helping me here.



I replaced 2 valve guides and 2 exhaust valves.





We got everything cleaned up and finished the valve adjustment:



Bolted on the head:



And exhaust manifold:





We got it started! Man it sounds really good! I don't want to run it too long without coolant, but I'll post a video soon! I need to finish the radiator and install new freeze plugs, but I have to remove the water pump and the starter, a couple freeze plugs sit right under there.[/QUOTE]
 
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PostPosted: Wed Dec 19, 2018 10:31 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote



Good to hear!
 
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 21, 2018 4:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="mopardude318"](reply to post at 12:24:43 11/14/18) [/quote]

I noticed the freeze plugs are busted
It either froze at one time or they rusted out
Better check those
 
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 22, 2018 8:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I noticed the freeze plugs are busted
It either froze at one time or they rusted out
Better check those


Yes thank you. I pulled the starter, water pump, distributor housing, and oil filter housing so I can replace all 6 of those on the side of the block.

I ordered a rebuilt water pump/distributor housing,drive gear all from Zimmerman's as mine was all complete toast. lol. more pics to come.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:19 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Great quality photos. My BGSH has pretty much the same issues yours did. Where did you end up getting new engine gaskets - Zimmermans? How
about the radiator gaskets? Thanks
 
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 08, 2019 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

[quote="mopardude318"](reply to post at 11:24:00 12/18/18) [/quote]

It always makes you feel good when you hear
The dead come alive after some hard work and
Busted knuckles
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 10:23 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Allan B. wrote:
(quoted from post at 06:19:47 01/08/19) Great quality photos. My BGSH has pretty much the same issues yours did. Where did you end up getting new engine gaskets - Zimmermans? How
about the radiator gaskets? Thanks


Yes, I got all the gaskets I needed from Zimmermans. Same for the radiator gasket, which is just a peel and stick, you punch your own holes. Very easy.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 7:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So I got some more work done today. I was stuck on the water pump for a month, had to look for one, and save my pennies for a while, they sure are not cheap, I got a rebuilt unit from Landis Zimmerman.

Mine was all seized up, looks like it was previously worked on years ago, they brazed the impeller all back together, the housing was all cracked and welded back. The distributor/water pump drive shaft was chewed all to ****. Luckily I found a whole new unit.



I tried to get it apart to save it, but it was too far gone. I used a lot of heat too.









rebuilt unit, very nice! $$$





Got the rusted out freeze plugs replaced with some brass ones. Smile





Kept on going and got the water pump bolted on, then the oil filter housing. That's enough for a days work. I'll clean up the block where the starter goes, I got that rebuilt too. You can see when I started, the cylinder head is a different orange, then I special ordered a case of Cletrac orange and painted everything else with it. I'm leavin the head that other orange, I don't care. LOL. Just an old dozer.










 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 3:26 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Nice work

Rich
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:37 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had to rebuild the hydraulic pump, which turned into a rather big ordeal. Once I had it apart, I needed new bearings & seals. The bearings were NOT cheap, $40 each and I needed 8!! Luckily my local bearing house was able to cross over the old numbers, it took a few days of research. LOL. Of course, no one had gaskets, I had to make them myself, very time consuming! I had this pump built 3 times over, each time having to make new gaskets to get the gear-to-case clearances right. What a ROYAL pain in the A**! The first time was too tight and would not turn once bolted together! This dang pump almost broke me. LOL.

Here's some pics of disassembly, cleaning, and reassembly.







My ultra sonic cleaner really sped things up!



Pulling old bearings out and pressing in the new ones





Lightly sanded all surfaces nice & flat.



Found some real thin gasket material, used adhesive spray to glue them on and what a tedious process to cut everything out, 8 sealing surfaces!!





Finally reassembly!









At last the pump is done.




 
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:43 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well I got some more work done this weekend. After I got the engine to run by itself, I wanted to see if the tractor would move...So I pushed in the clutch, placed it in gear and eased off the clutch...the drive sprockets nudged a little bit, the tracks tightened as if it was gonna start to roll forward, then all of a sudden, as I apply full torque and release the clutch all the way out, I hear a banging/grinding noise, and the tractor ceases to move!!!

So I just may have found the problem why this thing was parked...Busted trans, or drive gear, or something. I don't know. So I get out a book and start reading, and start pulling inspection covers. LOL I have found that the inner and outer main drive shaft bearings have disintegrated and all that remains is the bearing race. LOL. The drive shaft gear was now flopping unsupported in the housing making it skip over the bull gear. If that makes sense. LOL Here's some pics.

Here are the covers I start to remove, the shifter and PTO lever just come straight out. easy.






Kind of a mess in there but I can work with that. lol





I didn't find anything unusual in there so it was suggested to me to pull the final drive covers behind the sprockets...



One side looked good, had bearings. Smile



The other side was the problem side! No bearings, just the race! LOL



This was the unsupported gear that was skipping on the bull gear, if you will...



I had to get my Kubota, and pull the Cletrac forward so a hole in the sprocket lines up with those inspection covers, allowing me to remove the shaft and gear!



Comes out right through this hole.





Not much to see here.



These guys look good.



So the inner and outer bearings were 50 bucks a piece, should be here by Friday. I don't know what I have to do yet to install the new bearings...break track and pull the sprocket, then take apart the bull gear/final drive housing...press the bearings in...I don't know yet. I got some work ahead of me boys. More to come. LOL
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 19, 2019 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well I sure had a busy Saturday. I found the master link in the track and pulled the tractor till it was in the sprocket. Used a torch got the little pin out.



Then started beating on this dang pin, man it wouldn't budge.



I had to borrow my brother in laws Oxy/Acetylene torch to get the chain links cherry red!



Then after pounding on that **** pin for...oh I don't know, 200 strikes with a 12 pound sledge, I finally got it.



My hand slipped and I smashed the sh!t out of my finger.



The sprocket nut is 3 dang inches big, it was pretty tight.



But not as tight as the sprocket on the shaft. Oh my that was a tough one. I made a puller out of 3/4 grade 8 all thread, some 1" thick plate that I burned 2 holes through, and a bottle jack.



Some more heat and beating on it, also maxed out my 10 ton jack, finally came off.



I had some timbers I had layin around I cut to fit. lol Jacked it up with 2 jacks.



With the sprocket out of the way, I was able to take off the first half of the final drive cover, which also took some beatin.



I have a lot of cleanin to do! There parts of the bearing races and ball bearings everywhere. What a mess.



I have to pull this cotter pin, take the nut off and pull and replace the inner and outer bearing on this too because the sprocket was wobbling like a bad wheel bearing.



Started at 10 this morning, finished at 11pm. I'm beat. good night.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 28, 2019 8:47 pm    Post subject: Re: Doubt I can get this BGS-H Cletrac running... Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bull gear assembly pulled apart. few drops on a block of wood did the trick. isn't working in the dirt so fun!!



I'll order the bearings and seals from Zimmerman tomorrow, If he has 'em. maybe i'll start cleaning everything. I dunno





Maybe I'll start cleaning everything. Gonna take a lot of solvent/diesel/kerosene.
 
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