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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 12:21 pm    Post subject: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Is black-colored body filler available anywhere that can be sanded just like bondo? I have some black plastic pieces that I need to repair. -thanks.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Married2Allis wrote:
(quoted from post at 15:21:59 01/10/19) Is black-colored body filler available anywhere that can be sanded just like bondo? I have some black plastic pieces that I need to repair. -thanks.


You might have luck with something like this:
https://www.kbs-coatings.com/Epoxy-Putty.html

What are you working on?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


If you ask the whole question you may get a complete answer.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 10, 2019 6:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If it's not used outdoors you can color bondo with a universal tinting color. You would have to use a fiberglass resin hardener to harden it because the red hardener added to black would make a dark brown.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:51 am    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks for the tips. I'm restoring a black plastic dashboard that is chipped and has deep grooves from vibration.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:54 am    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:29:26 01/10/19)
If you ask the whole question you may get a complete answer.

Oh sure … here's my whole question: Is black-colored body filler available anywhere that can be sanded just like bondo?
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Married2Allis wrote:
(quoted from post at 03:54:08 01/11/19)
showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:29:26 01/10/19)
If you ask the whole question you may get a complete answer.

Oh sure … here's my whole question: Is black-colored body filler available anywhere that can be sanded just like bondo?


You could probably get significantly more help if you told what type of plastic it is, which makes a HUGE difference on what will bond to it. The performance is also affected by exposure to weather, what sort of stress it its under, such as twist, compression tension, etc. if there is rust adjacent to the repair area. From the years that I have been reading these forums I have found that the amount of diversity in other reader's life experience is just immense. So when I have a question on a project, rather than ask for what I have concluded I have narrowed my plan down to. I will tell exactly what I am working on so that readers can actually apply their experience and knowledge to the whole problem rather than a sliver of it. On the TV quiz shows contestants have a much better chance at getting the correct answer after they are given more clues.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:34 am    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

For that application I would use epoxy for plastic and once you get it repaired restore the color with paint such as fusion which is made for plastic. You could dispense some out of a rattle can and mix different colors until you match it and apply it with a soft artist brush.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 6:39 am    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Stephen Newell wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:34:32 01/11/19) For that application I would use epoxy for plastic and once you get it repaired restore the color with paint such as fusion which is made for plastic. You could dispense some out of a rattle can and mix different colors until you match it and apply it with a soft artist brush.


This is sound advice and more along the lines with what I was thinking from the beginning. I don't think the OP will be happy with the repair without using some paint.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:06 am    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Stephen Newell wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:34:32 01/11/19) For that application I would use epoxy for plastic and once you get it repaired restore the color with paint such as fusion which is made for plastic. You could dispense some out of a rattle can and mix different colors until you match it and apply it with a soft artist brush.

Yeah, need to use black matte spray paint to finish. Which is why I wondered about black-colored filler in the first place. Would make a better job if it was black underneath the paint. Stephen, sounds like you've done this before. It's basically an art project -- lol (like you I do artwork as well). I've restored a few before.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 11, 2019 7:24 am    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

yakob wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:39:07 01/11/19)
CVPost-Stephen Newell wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:34:32 01/11/19) For that application I would use epoxy for plastic and once you get it repaired restore the color with paint such as fusion which is made for plastic. You could dispense some out of a rattle can and mix different colors until you match it and apply it with a soft artist brush.


This is sound advice and more along the lines with what I was thinking from the beginning. I don't think the OP will be happy with the repair without using some paint.

I've used both bondo and epoxy (for plastic) before and actually for this I prefer the bondo because it is softer and shapes easier. Sometimes the epoxy is harder than the plastic and that makes it tougher to work with appearance wise. I am using epoxy to mend the cracks.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm primarily a cabinetmaker and furniture refinisher. There is times when I need to fill a knot hole or a gouge on an antique and will mix a universal tinting color in the bondo and use for wood putty. A universal tinting color is the colorant a paint store has in their machines to mix paint. It will mix into bondo just fine but has to be done prior to adding hardener. I just don't know what it would do to the integrity of the bondo if someone were to use it outdoors.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 13, 2019 7:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

They have this https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/Bondo-Bumper-Repair-Adhesive-Kit/?N=5002385+3293087061&rt=rud it's flexible, and can be used as a filler.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Jan 14, 2019 7:54 am    Post subject: Re: Black Body Filler? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

ptfarmer wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:20:20 01/13/19) They have this https://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/Bondo-Bumper-Repair-Adhesive-Kit/?N=5002385+3293087061&rt=rud it's flexible, and can be used as a filler.

Thanks ptfarmer! This is exactly the stuff I'm looking for. BLACK BONDO.
 
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