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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 6:21 am    Post subject: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a 650g case dozer that the right track stops pulling after a few minutes of operation pulls o k when cold and the left track does good. have replaced steering clutches and put seals in control valve still with same problem. Need to know where to go from here. Thanks for any help. also is there a manual that explanes the operations of this machine
 
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PostPosted: Wed Feb 27, 2019 7:30 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I do have a ORIGINAL service and parts and Operator manual for sale for your 650 G Crawler if interested. my e mail
address is jcmarleau@aol.com
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:01 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You definitely need the manual for troubleshooting and pressure testing the transmission,are you losing reverse as well or is it forward only?.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:17 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

AJ. wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:01:11 02/28/19) You definitely need the manual for troubleshooting and pressure testing the transmission,are you losing reverse as well or is it forward only?.
AJ
Losing forward and reverse on right side, left
side does great never stops pulling until you apply the left brake pedal. Thanks for your reply
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:28 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Did you have that clutch pack bench tested before installing it?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Did you replace those three metal rings on the end of the shaft?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-tomtinker wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:28:06 02/28/19) Did you have that clutch pack bench tested before installing it?
Do not see any way to bench test the clutch pack had to install the clutches in machine one at the time
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 8:27 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

are you talking about the bevel washers on the pins or the big bevel springs in the front cover
 
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 4:55 pm    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It's hard to advise on this type of problem when something is working one minute and not the next,if it did not pull at all on the right one would be checking the final drive did not let go,this sounds more like a pressure loss issue,but it is the same pump for both sides so why is the pressure gone from one side and not the other,with the test equipment needed I think you should have a service engineer from your Case dealer diagnose the problem for you,no good putting on parts that are not needed,my 2C worth.
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 28, 2019 7:10 pm    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

dose this machine have two brake peddles with two master cyl.like the 455s if so clean the brake master cyl. vent on the cap if they plug and can't vent it will build pressure and release the steering brake. rubber diaphragm in the cap that MUST be vented if by chance you change the brake master cylinder with a after market they are not vented but if it is still oem might be pluged
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:43 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The Case dealer bench tested mine for a 450 once.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That cover can wear out on the inside as well as the metal seal rings themselves.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 01, 2019 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: case 650g crawler right track stops pulling Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I thank you for your reply and believe you are right seems to be pressure lose. I have a Case dealer nearby and I am waiting for them to get back with me on a date they can send service tech out to help me diagnose the problem.
 
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