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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 5:54 pm    Post subject: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Does any one have any alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers?
It seems that i dont have much luck with them.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Apr 21, 2019 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

"Uppercase" Pioneer is Parker's name for their ag quick couplers. However, many other companies make them and the Pioneer name has essentially become "pioneer" and is informally used for any brand of ISO 5675 compatible couplers. You're pretty much stuck with this style of coupler since it is the industry standard for tractor remote hydraulic connections.

What sort of problems are you having? If you're using the ball version and are experiencing leak issues when uncoupled you could try the more reliable poppet style.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i always have trouble getting the fittings together, i'm not sure if i lack the strength in my hands to hold the female open and am just not coordinated enough.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 3:21 am    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What tractor? My Olivers I have to shut down the engine and take pressure off the couplers to hook up the remotes.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

As mentioned, there are a lot of very cheap ?pioneer style? couplers, and then there are quality and goof spec Parker Pioneer couplers.

The female ends tend to wear out after 20-50 years, and we forget as we replace the more abused male ends a lot more often, generally with the poorer quality cheaper new versions. The good quality ones can be rebuilt with new parts and o rings, but the repair parts might cost a lot more then a cheap poor whole replacement. Guess what happens.....

So, we end up with a cheaply made male end that is poor specs and at best a worn out beat up female end, and are surprised it leaks or doesn?t fit well.....

Pay some real dollars for a real good quality set of connectors and a lot of your problems will disappear; but you won?t like seeing what that costs you. And probsbly won?t find the good set at the fleet and farm store. We are just used to the cheap prices of the poor stuff and can?t swallow the cost of the well fitted parts.

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 8:18 am    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've found it's best to get the ones that the collar works both ways and the breakaway clamp that goes with them. Then you can just push the male end in. Like TF says,on the Olivers,they always have pressure on one when the engine is running.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

All of my fleet line Olivers
I shut the tractors off prior to trying to get the lines connected
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 2:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Think i'm going to try one of these gadgets to see if there is any difference
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

But the pressure stays on the coupler at least it does with my 1600,1550's etc.So I use a hitch pin to push against the ball in the coupler to relieve the pressure.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 22, 2019 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My 1550 diesel had couplers on it that sort of screwed together.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have poor luck with pioneer couplers as well pretty much anything else I've used is better than pioneer. There are a coupler brands that are much better, the collars slide better and lock and unlock much better - Stsucci are good Italian made available usually at hydraulic specialty shops. Safeway - American made, Apache - USA - those last two can be bought at some hardware stores. The general farm stores like tractor supply and Rural King are just going to have Pioneer and there usually going to be double the price of the other brands .
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 6:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I have a 3rd remote on my loader that uses Pioneer quick couplers and the females collars are a b***h to retract and then like to leak after you've disconnected. I won't mention how nice they are in winter when they get wet and freeze ...... only when you're attaching the snowblade of course. These are dealer installed couplers ..... and they seem like junk.

So where do we go to get "the good ones"?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 23, 2019 7:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Bunchgrass Farm wrote:
(quoted from post at 21:29:48 04/23/19) I have a 3rd remote on my loader that uses Pioneer quick couplers and the females collars are a b***h to retract and then like to leak after you've disconnected. I won't mention how nice they are in winter when they get wet and freeze ...... only when you're attaching the snowblade of course. These are dealer installed couplers ..... and they seem like junk.

So where do we go to get "the good ones"?


Basic "Pioneer" couplers are "as good as it gets".

If you are having issues you need to pay attention to the instructions for your application, and learn to relieve all pressure before attempting to uncouple or recouple them.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Stucchi makes an excellent QC, it can be connected under pressure, so no more beating on the coupler to relieve pressure. They make these in all types of sizes. A good hydraulic shop will have them. They are not much more expensive than the cheap ones and are worth the cost.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 24, 2019 6:20 pm    Post subject: Re: Alternatives to Pioneer quick couplers Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That's what I use I Buy them for 12 bucks apiece and a hydraulic shop
 
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