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JoeMartin
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 11:22 am    Post subject: 135 clutch Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I was on my property in WV. I was grading my drive with a 9' blade. Got the last pass in, shifted into reverse, backed up a few feet, pushed the clutch in to go into a forward gear and the pedal went to the floor. No resistance at all. Had to back about a 1/4 mile down the drive so I could turn around and back up to my parking spot. I pulled the plate off the bottom. My BIL could operate the clutch pedal with his hand. I didn't have good light, but it looked like the throw out bearing was sliding in and out of the pressure plate. Wasn't hitting on anything. What are the possibilities?
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 14, 2019 10:43 pm    Post subject: Re: 135 clutch Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Hello Joe,
From your description the only resistance
when pressing the pedal is that of the
release bearing springs to lift the pedal
back up. First of all check the clutch
rod lever where the rod joins the outside
operating arm to make sure that it has
not turned on the shaft. If all is ok
here check the operation of the internal
mechanism again. Is the pedal going all
the way down with no resistance in other
words have you lost first and second
stages of the clutch?
This is certainly an unusual problem.
Around the outside of the clutch cover
are 3 adjusting screws. When the pedal is
pressed does the adjustment gap close and
the pto pressure plate begin to move
rearwards?
Let us know what you find after another
look and hopefully we can pinpoint the
problem.
DavidP, South Wales
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 15, 2019 10:09 am    Post subject: Re: 135 clutch Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My 180 did the same thing when I got it all together and adjusted the clutch. During the adjustment I didn't get the bolt tight enough on the cross shaft and it spun. That bolt needs to be tight like very tight, you think you might break it tight. I would also suggest getting any and all oil off of it before tightening it up. Take brake or carb cleaner and get it as oil free as possible.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 16, 2019 3:49 am    Post subject: Re: 135 clutch Reply to specific post Reply with quote

The best description I can think of is it's like there are no fingers on the pressure plate. You can hold the pedal in two fingers and operate it in and out with no contact resistance. Like both stages were not there. I need to get a flash light in there so I can see better. But it looks like the throw out bearing was sliding in and out of the pressure plate, but not landing on anything to push on.

The bolt on the cross shaft sounds like my first thought. When I was messing with race cars as a kid I had a couple clutch forks bend or crack off. The pedal just flopped up and down with no contact resistance. That's what it feels like. But, when you look up in there, something is sliding along the input shaft. It might be a week or so before I get back up there to look. I'll post what I can see with better light.

I'm having a pre made garage put on the property and have had to run up there 8 times in the past 3 weeks. It's a 2 1/2-3 hour drive just to talk to a contractor for 5 minutes. At least when they get the garage in, I'll have a place to work on it.
 
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