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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 4:58 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote

It won't affect the way the engine runs. If the injector return was plugged, pressure would build up inside
until the line blew.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:22 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Destroked 450 wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:56:56 07/11/19)
Kimandre wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:48:35 07/11/19)
Sean in PA wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:19:06 07/11/19)
CVPost-Bern wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:53:10 07/10/19) There is no fuel return line with this pump.


There is a return line from the injectors to the tank though. Won't that cause issues if it is clogged?


Its open, blew thru it with air nozzle.


We see one line coming out of the top of the lift pump, where's the one that connects to the bottom of the lift pump?

Hmm, it wasnt a line from the bottom of the feed pump on this one when i got it Question
Where should it go?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 5:40 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Kimandre wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:22:15 07/11/19)
Destroked 450 wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:56:56 07/11/19)
Kimandre wrote:
(quoted from post at 05:48:35 07/11/19)
Sean in PA wrote:
(quoted from post at 12:19:06 07/11/19)
CVPost-Bern wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:53:10 07/10/19) There is no fuel return line with this pump.


There is a return line from the injectors to the tank though. Won't that cause issues if it is clogged?


Its open, blew thru it with air nozzle.


We see one line coming out of the top of the lift pump, where's the one that connects to the bottom of the lift pump?

Hmm, it wasnt a line from the bottom of the feed pump on this one when i got it Question
Where should it go?


OKAY... there lies the problem.... I dont currently have a 5000 on the place this week... but...

but iirc... the fuel tank feeds the lift pump which then feeds the filter.... which then feeds the ip.... which has a bleeder line back to the filter.... but again, its been a couple of days and I dont take long to forget stuff anymore.


so your lift pump is simply pumping air....into the filter and making it loose prime??

Dont remember exactly how the lines run so check this, but you do have to have a line into the lift pump and a line out of the lift pump... and I dont see the bottom line. So I think we have found your problem...
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:26 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Line #16 comes from the bottom of the tank to the BOTTOM of the lift (feed) pump. That is fuel in to the
system. Line #19A comes out of the TOP of the lift pump and sends fuel to the filter. Line 36A runs from the
filter to the back of the injection pump.
Fuel lines

 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 6:50 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Bern wrote:
(quoted from post at 16:26:19 07/11/19) Line #16 comes from the bottom of the tank to the BOTTOM of the lift (feed) pump. That is fuel in to the
system. Line #19A comes out of the TOP of the lift pump and sends fuel to the filter. Line 36A runs from the
filter to the back of the injection pump.
Fuel lines


Do you have a picture of this?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:20 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No I do not. Does the parts book link not work for you?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-bern wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:20:18 07/11/19) No I do not. Does the parts book link not work for you?


Didnt see the link Embarassed
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My 5000 is a couple miles away in a hay field but here's a photo of a 3000 3 cylinder engine with a similar setup




The fuel line in the upper left corner of the photo comes from the tank and routes to the bottom of the lift pump.



The line coming out of the top of the lift pump routes around to the inlet on the fuel tank side of the filter base.



The rubber line coming from the filter bases outlet routes to the injection pump inlet.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 8:57 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Wow, that's about as crusty of an engine as I've seen in a long time.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 11, 2019 11:24 am    Post subject: Re: Ford 5000 injection pump problems Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Yea the whole tractor looked like that, had a loader on it and both had had a rough life.
Local repair shop/wrecker service had it in their salvage yard, bought it has a parts donor for a decent price.
Pulled all of the power steering assembly and good front axle parts to use on BIL's manual steering 3000.



Fuel tank, dash shrould, fly wheel and two stage clutch will be used on a frankenstein tractor we have in the works.
Engine has water in the cylinders but the fuel system is complete, brother needs that for a 3000 project he has.

Loader is twisted and going to scrap.

We have a 8 spd trans with live pto we don't need, email should be open if anyone is interested.
 
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