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Bret4207
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PostPosted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: Purchase Advice Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Some of the older JD crawlers like the 40C could be had with a PTO and a 3 pt too.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 15, 2020 8:00 am    Post subject: Re: Purchase Advice Reply to specific post Reply with quote

you got me to thinking, if you could have only one machine, for tree and brush clearing could you get by with just the dozer without a bucket? reason i ask, i would have a better chance finding a machine with pto if i included the dozers as well as the bucket machines?
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:07 am    Post subject: Re: Purchase Advice Reply to specific post Reply with quote


If your heart is set on a crawler with a ag type PTO, then you are likely going to be looking for an agricultural crawler, and a lot of them didn't have a blade at all. I think if you really want to run PTO equipment you might be better off finding an affordable rubber tired tractor and pulling the stuff to the chipper with the crawler.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 6:09 am    Post subject: Re: Purchase Advice Reply to specific post Reply with quote



Of course you can do the same thing with a winch, like I mentioned before by using some addition quality winch rope and avoid the cost/headaches of a crawler alogether, but it is quite a bit slower. Well, at least it slower until you throw on the downhill side of your crawler........... Shocked
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 9:13 pm    Post subject: Re: Purchase Advice Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A 420 430 John Deere crawler has a pto.
And a 3 point hitch was available. They
should also have a angle dozier. My Son
has a 8000 or so hydraulic winch. Runs off
the power steering pump. Will winch
forever. That said. The State hy-way dept.
Mows pretty steep banks with little 4x4
tractors with their wheels set out wide. I
would look for a 50 hp hydro JD- or Kubota
tractor with industrial tires and loader
with a quick change bucket and pallet
forks. Plus a hyd winch on the 3 point.
May need tire chains also.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 17, 2020 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: Purchase Advice Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just curious. You said you have run heavy equipment. What equipment did you run and how much, if I may ask.

Any loader and "steep" hills are not a good combination, especially if you are not straight up or down the hill. You must realize the center of gravity rises quickly as you raise the loader, even more with anything for a load in the bucket. If you decide to go with a loader you should find a machine equipped with an OEM certified ROPS and seatbelt. JMHO
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:35 am    Post subject: Re: Purchase Advice Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well I grew up on a farm, not the high dollar type of farm, just a small operation. Our biggest tractor was a International 1586, between the tractors and our grain trucks that was our heavy equipment. I worked for a Ethanol plant for a year where we drove trucks with main and a pup into the yard and then loaded them over the side with "wet cake", using a front end loader. We would load 4-6 trucks a night. Then for 10 years I worked at a coal fired power plant, we hauled coal with a good side loader to our conveyor system and built large stock piles for times when trucks couldn't get to us in the winter with coal. When building stock pile we had a large packer we towed behind the loader filled with water/antifreeze, you had to pack it tight or the pile would start on fire. Towing the packer was interesting, it was heavy enough if you got near the edge of the stock pile and it slid off, it was heavy enough to pull the loader down with it. Never happen to me but I seen one coworker do this and it tipped the loader half way on its side. Had to rig our dump truck to it while waiting for a wrecker towing outfit. Anyway, sometimes you would spend your entire 12 hour shift in the loader seat, some nights just a couple hours. I have had two different skid steers myself. Actually bought the Melrose 500 with a blown Kohler and re-powered it with a V-twin modern Kohler with the use of my own motor mounts and coupling.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 5:43 am    Post subject: Re: Purchase Advice Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dealing with the log(trunk) portion of the deadfall is only 25% of the work in this deadfall bug wood. Most of the work and time is the branches and limbs, say 5inches and down in diameter.-Dealing with those requires a wood chipper(other replies on here deal with chipping vs burning). You can't winch all the small stuff to the chipper, so the chipper has to move to all the small stuff. I think a crawler with the pto chipper would be the most mobile on steep ground to keep moving to the deadfall.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Jan 18, 2020 6:54 am    Post subject: Re: Purchase Advice Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-clancybear wrote:
(quoted from post at 10:43:33 01/18/20) Dealing with the log(trunk) portion of the deadfall is only 25% of the work in this deadfall bug wood. Most of the work and time is the branches and limbs, say 5inches and down in diameter.-Dealing with those requires a wood chipper(other replies on here deal with chipping vs burning). You can't winch all the small stuff to the chipper, so the chipper has to move to all the small stuff. I think a crawler with the pto chipper would be the most mobile on steep ground to keep moving to the deadfall.


Let me ask you, why do you want to get rid of all the small stuff? That all breaks down and helps hold the soil together on those hill sides you referenced. What are you trying to get to grow there?

FWIW, if you do get a crawler and this stuff is dead, just running it over will usually break it up and squash it down into the ground. Unless you are trying to create a park type landscape, I'd reconsider trying to chip every little limb.

How steep is this land and where abouts is it?
 
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