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charles Leddy
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:35 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Good luck with all that???? Most of the dis-abled "Vets" in my area sit out by the the curb and try to get money. Put
it on the market and see what you get???? This is a tractor forum for people to learn more about tractors and this is
going nowhere and all the luck with that and I had enough of nothing-Great to have a plain old "WD" with old faded
orange paint.cleddy
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 3:00 am    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-wgm wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:40:29 07/30/20) Not the same.
16mm = .6299"
5/8" = .6250"



You are correct by the numbers, but for practical purposes a 5/8" and 16MM wrench are the same as far as fit on a fastener.

16MM = 0.6299"
5/8" = 0.6250"
difference = 0.0049"

That's less than 0.005" difference. The allowable manufacturing tolerances of wrenches/sockets (and the nuts), not to mention wear on the tools that have been used, can exceed that amount. They can fit on either, so they can't be used to determine whether a fastener is standard or metric for certain. As was posted, actual diameter and thread pitch of the fastener are needed to make that determination.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 7:25 am    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Jim.ME wrote:
(quoted from post at 04:00:06 07/31/20)
CVPost-wgm wrote:
(quoted from post at 18:40:29 07/30/20) Not the same.
16mm = .6299"
5/8" = .6250"



You are correct by the numbers, but for practical purposes a 5/8" and 16MM wrench are the same as far as fit on a fastener.

16MM = 0.6299"
5/8" = 0.6250"
difference = 0.0049"

That's less than 0.005" difference. The allowable manufacturing tolerances of wrenches/sockets (and the nuts), not to mention wear on the tools that have been used, can exceed that amount. They can fit on either, so they can't be used to determine whether a fastener is standard or metric for certain. As was posted, actual diameter and thread pitch of the fastener are needed to make that determination.

I misspoke before. I pulled 3 nuts off of the pan. Aaron should be posting the pic for me. I'm not computer proficient. Can't get pics posted myself. Mechanical I can figure out. Or electrical. Just not computers. I had to use a 15mm socket. The 9/16 was too small and the 5/8 was a sloppy fit. The 15mm fit perfectly. And, I know what sae is. I've known that since I was 10 years old helping my Dad. At 14 I was on Peter Keiwitt jobsite with him. Helping to work on different plants and equipment. Plus with my school permit it gave me driving time.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:19 am    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Only us older types have and remember
using a 19/32 wrench or socket, Sears put
that size in sets up to at least the
early 70s as that is when I bought mine.
I'd bet a good sized pile that is what
you dealth with, not metric,,
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Butch(oh) wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:19:46 07/31/20) Only us older types have and remember
using a 19/32 wrench or socket, Sears put
that size in sets up to at least the
early 70s as that is when I bought mine.
I'd bet a good sized pile that is what
you dealth with, not metric,,

Been so long since I've seen a 19/32 I forgot all about them. I used to have them until they were stolen.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 4:57 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

here is another odd one in my Craftsman deep set that I
purchased in June of 1974. The 19/32 was
used on Ford power steering pumos back in
the day but this 25/32 has never been
used to my knowledge.

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:06 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

What about a 21/32 I have no clue what it would fit

 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Butch(oh) wrote:
(quoted from post at 17:57:02 07/31/20) here is another odd one in my Craftsman deep set that I
purchased in June of 1974. The 19/32 was
used on Ford power steering pumos back in
the day but this 25/32 has never been
used to my knowledge.
<img src="/cvphotos/cvphoto51984.jpg">

My Dad was a mechanic/machinist/electrician/welder for Keiwitt Corp. here in Nebraska. The only thing we drove was Ford's. So, yes we did use the 19/32. Used the 25/32 on construction equipment. But, it's been so long ago I can't remember what I used it on. Just remember it as being painted yellow. And I was helping my dad out on a jobsite in western part of Nebraska. They would send him anywhere from Oklahoma to Wyoming to fix things that other people couldn't get fixed. And, he always got it going.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 31, 2020 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Leroi probably had castings made at “Standard Foundry Co” in Racine, WI. Look at the foundry mark again. Hardly
any engine companies made their own block castings. They purchased them from foundries.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Aug 01, 2020 5:23 am    Post subject: Re: 1951 WD45 Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Tramway Guy wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:44:20 07/31/20) Leroi probably had castings made at "Standard Foundry Co" in Racine, WI. Look at the foundry mark again. Hardly
any engine companies made their own block castings. They purchased them from foundries.

The problem is that we are all guessing. I searched and found more than one engine manufacturer back then with the initials either FSCo. or SFCo. Such as Farm Safety Co. Until another engine or piece of equipment can be found with this very casting symbol/ company logo. It's only a guess. Which is why I started this. To find documented proof. Guessing won't solve the problem of identifying this engine and the reason this tractor is put together like it is. Hopefully the documents haven't been destroyed. If anyone knows of a resource that I can look into it, has contacts that they can use. It would be very much appreciated. Sarcasm and guessing won't solve anything. At least the guessing could lead to something useful. I tried to do a Google picture search on the casting symbol. But, all I got were pictures of wood carvings. Maybe someone, better than I am with computers can do a search. Who knows, maybe the person with the info is reading all of these guesses and is sitting and laughing at us. Waiting until the time is right to step in and tell us what this is.
 
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