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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 11:04 am    Post subject: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My buddy and I are thinking about getting into pulling. The local club uses a stone boat and requires 1955 and older. Any suggestions as to what would be good? Thinking 3500 or 4500 class.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 20, 2020 7:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Would a late (1947-1952) model John Deere B have a creeper gear transmission that could to fit the bill at low cost?
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 1:38 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think they have a 1.5 mph 1st gear. I know of a JD 50 that I could buy reasonably but, not sure if that would be in the 4500 class.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:19 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Other tractors that I know of for sale are:

JD 40T
JD MT
Farmall C
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 5:55 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Any of those 3 can be made into good stone boat pullers.
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 8:37 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

77 Oliver's are hard to beat in that range. gm
 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 21, 2020 2:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks...that’s kinda where I was leaning anyway...I like Olivers
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Are Oliver 60’s any good at 3000lbs?
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 7:49 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I believe that a 66 would be easier to power up at that weight but enuf $ makes anything competitive. gm
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 22, 2020 3:35 pm    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A 50 would be ok with steel wheels.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 6:35 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Well, I own my great grandfathers Oliver 60...I don’t mind doing a mild build...could this be make to compete in 3000#?
Or 2500?
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 23, 2020 10:00 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote



JDs and Farmalls have longer stroke which makes them more competitive at low RPMs. While the Olivers and Fords are shorter stroke higher RPMs. For those weight classes you want a JD B or Farmall C. The 2 cyl. tend to be light on the front but you should be able to move weight with a B.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 7:51 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I think case and MM have the edge in most four cylinder stroke , weight center of gravity jd .
But it fun to us the ingenuity to see what you can do with any tractor, my thoughts.
If you master the principles of physics of the dead end weight set up ,you will beat the track guys every time.
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:30 am    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-560Dennis wrote:
(quoted from post at 08:51:31 11/29/20) I think case and MM have the edge in most four cylinder stroke , weight center of gravity jd .
But it fun to us the ingenuity to see what you can do with any tractor, my thoughts.
If you master the principles of physics of the dead end weight set up ,you will beat the track guys every time.



Dennis, what is "the dead end weight set up? I have never heard of that in thirty years of pulling. And what are the principals of physics of it and who are the "track guys"??
 
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Stone boat pulling tractors? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Dead weight sled set up , or stone boat
Track pullers only
 
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