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karlinpa
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 2:09 pm    Post subject: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

heard today pa dot checked a man with trailer and told him his chains werent dot compliant they didnt have dot tags on
them is this true? never heard of this
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I'm not aware of any DOT tags on chains. Here's a quick reference. https://www.columbusmckinnon.com/en-us/resources/blog/the-low-down-on-chain-tie-downs/ But I use straps for hauling wall block, and pavers, and they do require tags.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 24, 2020 8:57 pm    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sure, Chains are marked(stamped) if they are not tagged or stamped, then they revert back to common capacity. Gold colored chain is coded as grade 70(transport chain) I like 5/16 grade 70.easy to throw and easy to get around axles and draw bars. I also keep a set of 3/6 for the heavy stuff.
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 1:55 am    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Some chains actually have a metal . Most have a g70 stamp and gold colored if they grade 70 which is what they call transport chain : you could get some g120 chain which is blue if you want to really tie something on
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 3:06 pm    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

come to think about it i work part time for towing co and i did see blue chains on the large truck wreckers and we have gold chains on the smaller trucks but all my farm chains all sizes are old and rusty as they are 20 0r so yrs old probally not for lowboy anymore
 
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 25, 2020 7:29 pm    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


The only chains that I've seen that have metal tags are for lifting with overhead cranes, an hoists.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:09 am    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You could use rope to tie down the load if you want to. As long as you use enough of it to cover the weight

No way it will stand up in court if he was ticketed for his chains.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 3:58 am    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Graded transport chains are stamped into every few links.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 26, 2020 4:06 am    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

kevinj54 wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:58:46 11/26/20)
Graded transport chains are stamped into every few links.




 
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 5:28 am    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote



Karl in PA, YT is the best place that you con go to to get false information on transportation laws. You will get a lot of "I was always taught", and "A DOT inspector told me" or "I was always told". For the correct information read it yourself at Cargo Securement rules FMCSA.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:14 am    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 06:28:52 11/28/20)

Karl in PA, YT is the best place that you con go to to get false information on transportation laws. You will get a lot of "I was always taught", and "A DOT inspector told me" or "I was always told". For the correct information read it yourself at Cargo Securement rules FMCSA.


1. Good luck trying to convince a DOT officer that they're wrong.

2. FMSCA does not cover state idiosyncrasies.
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 8:50 am    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

BarnyardEngineering wrote:
(quoted from post at 09:14:02 11/30/20)
showcrop wrote:
(quoted from post at 06:28:52 11/28/20)

Karl in PA, YT is the best place that you con go to to get false information on transportation laws. You will get a lot of "I was always taught", and "A DOT inspector told me" or "I was always told". For the correct information read it yourself at Cargo Securement rules FMCSA.


1. Good luck trying to convince a DOT officer that they're wrong.

2. FMSCA does not cover state idiosyncrasies.



Barnyard, thanks for backing me up on what I posted!
 
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 1:46 pm    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Well said guys.

It is cheap enough to buy the needed books from JJ Keller and have the info with you!!!!!!!!!
 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 12:08 am    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

And that my fine feathered friend is why the YTDOT was
brought into being .









 
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2020 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: tie down chains? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

how do you determine the size of the transport chains? i/4 the weight of the tractor? or 1/2 the weight for the 2 front chains and back 2 chains? I see transport chains come in 1/4" size
 
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