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Gk2004 New User
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Posted: Sat Nov 28, 2020 10:19 pm Post subject: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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Hello, I am trying to restore my ford tractor. I got it thinking it
was a 9n, but now I not so sure. I still think it is a 9n but the
vin number is kinda weird. I resently got a 2n tractor for parts,
I know that is a 2n. The vin on the 9n indicates it was made
after the 2n. Which I thought was weird because the 2n was
made after the 9n. The 9n also has all the 9n parts if it was a
2n. Also the vin on the 9n has diamonds instead of stars but
still says 9n. I have heard the diamonds were on only the 8n.
Does anyone know what ford tractor this is?
Serial Number List for Ford: Model 9N
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Kirk-NJ Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 1:26 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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Serial number would make it a '44. Likely rebuilt sleeve changed out to heavier ones. Numbers were restamped. Ford didn't use that 1 or 6 They used an I and b. |
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1Rustic1 Regular
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 2:01 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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Both are 2N. I just sold 9N #90063 one of the last 9Ns before the 2N transition. Nice to see a 6v generator instead of the goofy 12 volt alternators. Keep us posted. Thanks. |
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 3:58 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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CVPost-1rustic1 wrote: | (quoted from post at 03:01:05 11/29/20) Both are 2N. I just sold 9N #90063 one of the last 9Ns before the 2N transition. Nice to see a 6v generator instead of the goofy 12 volt alternators. Keep us posted. Thanks. | ,
Just noticed what looks to be a cyclone underhood air cleaner, if it has the original jar and bail, those don't show up often. Another cherry on the pie. |
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Gk2004 New User
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 8:26 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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Thanks for the feedback. If it is a 2n like you guys say I don’t see why someone would change everything to 9n parts. |
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R Geiger Tractor Guru
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 9:09 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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CVPost-Gk2004 wrote: | (quoted from post at 10:26:31 11/29/20) Thanks for the feedback. If it is a 2n like you guys say I don t see why someone would change everything to 9n parts. | What would make you think there are 9N parts on your 2N?
Most of the parts are the same anyway. They never used a 2 preceding a part number. It stay 9 until the 8N came out.
have fun! |
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oldsarge Tractor Expert
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:03 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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All 2Ns had 9N as serial no. prefix. Tubular radius rod rather than forging says late "44 to "47 2N .Mine is an early "44.Been riding it since I was two and it was just a baby...................GTM |
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1Rustic1 Regular
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:27 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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CVPost-oldsarge wrote: | (quoted from post at 11:03:07 11/29/20) All 2Ns had 9N as serial no. prefix. Tubular radius rod rather than forging says late "44 to "47 2N .Mine is an early "44.Been riding it since I was two and it was just a baby...................GTM |
BINGO!!
Blue one is a 43
Red one is a 46
Not to many changes along the way. bolsters,radius rods etc were probably the most noticeable.
The later ones had the dreaded 2 pc bolster, the red one that is on my enemy list, for personal reasons.
I THINK all had the curved left brake pedal.
Correct me if I'm wrong, I'm still a greenhorn.
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1Rustic1 Regular
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 10:32 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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For some reason my pics never do right.
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Gk2004 New User
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:02 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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The 2n that I have is all original. If the “9n” is actually a 2n
than it would have 9n parts.
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Gk2004 New User
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Posted: Sun Nov 29, 2020 11:19 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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Could the vin have been changed in doing this? |
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Tim PloughNman Daley Tractor Guru
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Posted: Mon Nov 30, 2020 5:11 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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Again with serial numbers? OK, ALL 9N & 2N models used the "9N" prefix in the s/n. Period. Except for Industrial Models and the Moto-Tug, they all used the same procedure, with a star symbol before and after the s/n. FORD system was used on ALL vehicles, not just tractors. The 9N after s/n 12500 and the 2N were basically the same ---- 3-speed; draft control only; 1-wire/3 brush gen and round cutout; 1-wire starter w/ no solenoid; and a few steering box changes. In your first photo, someone falsified that number. The numerals '1', '6', and '9' were letters and the other numerals aren't the same font either. Someone added a fake diamond symbol as well. Means nothing s well. You'd want to inspect the cylinder bores to tell but know that steel liners are no longer made today so it's a moot point.
Again I say, serial numbers mean nothing really, unless you have an early 9N or early 8N you are restoring. FORD serial number stamps used from 1931 to 1950, not just tractors, all vehicles, used the STAR (*) symbol before and after the s/n to designate that STEEL CYINDER LINERS were used. In April, 1950, FORD revised to cast iron sleeves, changed the star to a diamond (<>)symbol and that is what is used/sold today -they don't make steel ones anymore, and were not good to begin with. That is probably why they had to mark the blocks as they anticipating making a change at some point. Just because your s/n has the star symbol don't assume it still has steel liners. Chances are the engine has been rebuilt at least once and very possibly could have cast iron sleeves now. You wouldn't know until you stripped down the block. If so, cylinder bores could also have been bored out larger so that is why I always say never to buy an engine kit until you have all the parts out to see what you need. Again I say, s/n's are a moot point. The important things to know are: 3-spd; DRAFT control system; front mount distributor, steering box changes; and if it has been switched out from the OEM 6V/POS GRN system to a 12V/NEG GRN system. Your essential parts books are a valuable tool.
FORD ENGINE BLOCK SERIAL NUMBER HAND STAMPS:
FORD 9N/2N ESSENTIAL OWNER/OPERATOR/PARTS/SERVICE MANUALS:
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1Rustic1 Regular
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Posted: Fri Dec 04, 2020 7:48 am Post subject: Re: What is my Ford tractor?? |
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Haven't heard from you in awhile. Hopefully you didn't get discouraged with some of the responses.
The air cleaner "red one" in your photo is the one I like.
I have a couple 2Ns also. My 46 is a original all numbers matching tractor.
It absolutely adds no monetary value to it at all. Other than my personal satisfaction of looking up the cast dates #s to see what I have.
Its not a new term, but I call these 11 Ns, haven't found a part that won't interchange with the 2s and the later 9s.
This was my 2nd tractor, I wanted to restore it and make it like it was new, reckon we all do that at first. Quickly found out restored 2Ns are not in much demand, even the old rusty ones will bring about the same. If you restore fix or refurbish one. Dont spend a bunch of money thinking its rare and desirable, chances are you will be disappointed. Enjoy your machine and fix it for yourself not someone else. |
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