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rockyridgefarm Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:32 am Post subject: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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But once in awhile I do aight. Had a very (to me) small hole to back into, and a retaining wall in the way of getting a straight shot. Got it on the second try
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ADB-Ia Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:37 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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I always hope I can back in to my left instead of my right. The hole gets a lot smaller when it's on the blind side. |
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paul Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 7:43 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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I’m always amazed at what you drivers have to deal with for load dock situations.
So often you need to back in from or basically across a busy street. Then the corner backing into a stall, blind.
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caterpillar guy Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:03 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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That looks like a pretty straight shot in. I had a pickup I did every night that I could go down to this empty spot to turn around and back in sight side or just back in blind side. After seeing the turn spot in daylight one time with all the junk for flats I went to blind siding. I had a Guy that would leave his marker lights on so could see the corner of his fender easy. First few times he would set and watch after that he forgot about it. I used to back in blind faster than some would sight side. Had the width of the street and the dock area for space the Ford plant fence was on the other side of the road so no extra front space. |
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danofarming Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:12 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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Get er Done! No scratches is the most important! |
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Gary Mitchell Tractor Expert
Joined: 05 Jun 2000 Posts: 1849 Location: St Clair Co. Missouri
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:28 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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My old favorite was "Ead's Water," in KCMO. You had to pull in the mirrors to get all the way back, then slip out the window to "dismount." gm |
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jon f mn Tractor Guru
Joined: 25 Jan 2012 Posts: 14771 Location: Pine City Mn
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:38 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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Backing into buildings like that is hard because it's hard to see
in there. Any time you do it scratch free it's a good job. |
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the tractor vet Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 8:41 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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Some of the places i have been will test your metal . While onl hauling coal the only hard backing was to old schools that were still heating with coal and you had to control flow into man holes over there coal bunkers , next up was road salt some salt sheds were not layed out well , they were fine for a tandem axle 14 footer but not for a tractor and a 30 foot dump. Then once out on the road doing long hal bucket work you found out that all the rough spots you hauled to before were a cake walk and now your dealing with a long wheel base tractor with a bunk house on the back and the days of cheating by looking thru the back window were gone and you found your self doing more blind side backing off city streets down narrow alleys . Your driving skills improved . Then you step up to the heavy haul and the big fat girl loads . Like putting a 11 foot 11 and 3/4 inch wide load thru a 12 foot door then back a half mile down thru a working plant with only a couple zig zags , that was the first 40 loads , the last 12 were more interesting as those went in a different door still 12 wide but only 14 high and the load was 14 .4 tall on the deck , with the air dumped on tractor and trailer made the load 14 and they had to remove two hyd. lines off the top to gain a 1/2 inch . You had to stay on your toes every min. Even before you kicked the brakes off and stuffed into gear you had to check everything and set and go over your permits and routing . W.Va. rerouted me off I 77 onto old U S 50 and straight into a 14 foot under pass with one of them 14.4 loads and no way around , N. C sent me in to a 12 foot lane restriction on a bridge over the Newfound gap . Pa set me over a ten ton road with 10 ton bridges when i was over a 160000 , N C sent me down a two lane road with 10 foot wide lanes while 12 foot wide .THEN Ark and Texas this is where it becomes a true adventure . Ark. gives you a 24 hour permit , and a bizarre routing , First they hold you up at the scales for a couple hours then turn you loose just knowing you will be forced to shut down once again for curfew for three hours then they know that you more then likely not have enough time to clear the state line before dark due to the routing and have to hole up and your permit expires and you will be forced to BUY another one to get out of the state when you just a couple miles from the line . Texas wants you to enjoy there state and see every inch and t do this and follow the route they give you yopu need to BUY the Texas road atlas and it is as thick as the reg one for the rest of the states and you get to drive on the F M's and F S's all the while you high wide and heavy and your lucky if you can get this all done in two days . |
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INCase Tractor Expert
Joined: 22 Jul 2002 Posts: 2223 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:11 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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ha, the 1st thing i thought of when i saw your 2nd picture was "close the dammmed door you're letting the heat out"!
I never did like dock backing. Only have really ever done it once and that was when i got my class-A while working at Gehl in the 1990's. The new CDL tests have you "parallel" park instead. |
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DR. EVIL Tractor Expert
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 9:39 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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That place doesn't look hard at all to back into! Turn all the lights in the building off so it's like
backing into a cave.
The old grocery warehouses in Chicago we picked up from and delivered to were interesting sometimes.
WE had a place about a mile EAST of Woodfield Shopping mall in Schamburg, Ill we delivered a 45,000# load
to about once a month called Animal Scientific, Had to back in from the street. Paperwork printed out
from Ralston Purina that "Must be delivered before 5 AM" The night I got stuck going there I'd chatted
with the night dispatcher and another driver then went home. I just get in bed and the damned phone rang,
I'd refused the load once already, and now I HAVE to take it? I put my same clothes on, start the truck
up parked in the back yard, didn't sit long enough to cool down or the brakes to leak down, drive the 15
miles back to the jumkyard, grab paperwork, find the trailer, and drive the e+ hours to the north side of
Chicago, it's just starting to get light out when I find the place, I turn crossways across all 6 lanes
of traffic, not a car in sight when I make the turn, back up into the driveway to the place and by the
time I get out of the street 3 cars are rudely waiting for me to get out of their way. I KNOW they were
thinking about teying to drive UNDER my trailer. I couldn't have been crossways in the street more than
15 seconds tops! |
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rusty6 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:13 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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For me its always easier backing into the shed at night time. By day it is so bright outside that I can't see much whats in the mirrors.
The drivers that impress me the most are the ones that can back up a super b into some of these older yards with limited turning space to get under the grain
auger. They don't have to worry about traffic though.
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gtractorfan Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 10:38 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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Years ago I watched a yard tractor driver moving trailers at a large factory at the huge dock. He backed trailers in at a pace you'd nearly have to run to keep up. But after doing only that day in and day out there was lots of practice. |
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pete 23 Tractor Guru
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 11:40 am Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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At my age, I worry backing the car out of the garage. There is a lady who
drove semi's along with her husband. When she would be waiting in line at the
elevator some of the guys would have her drive their vehicles . Almost all the
farmers around here switched to semi's in last 15 years or so and of course no
experience driving them.
Her late husband told me that when she started driving he sent her out in the
field with the semi and had her practice backing between obstacles to learn how
to use the mirrors. |
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john in la Tractor Guru
Joined: 28 Mar 2004 Posts: 14799 Location: Bedico, La.
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:17 pm Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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You want to see guys that know how to back up ?????
Go sit on a LTL yard for a while and watch them hook pups together.
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rrman61 Long Time User
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Posted: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:43 pm Post subject: Re: I am not near as good a driver as Jon mn... |
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Started my son out backing an empty boat trailer with a 4 -wheeler when he was 12.he’s 23 now
and as good I am ,maybe better because he LOVES doing it.the person I envy is a man or
woman who can back up a wagon. |
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