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PostPosted: Mon Mar 01, 2021 7:25 pm    Post subject: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I got a 44 H that really only gets used in the winter to plow snow it has some water in the trans the oil is the color of very milky coffee when i drain it this summer can i get away with just putting HY tran in it as it never gets worked hard when it hot out
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 1:40 am    Post subject: Re: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just wondering why you would want to put Hytran in it being as that is probably the most expensive oil you could use in there and it doesnt really need it?
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 3:12 am    Post subject: Re: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You can if you want to identify every leak on it.
Best to just drain and flush then refil with gear oil. Theyre very susceptible to getting water in the transmission if left outside the deck bolts and shifter can be entry points. Plus condensation contributes as well to a lesser degree.
Just change it and keep parked inside and youll be fine.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 6:30 am    Post subject: Re: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You definitely want to use heavy gear lube not hytran.

Much more practical and pragmatic to find ways to mitigate water infiltration, and/or drain the water that pools at the bottom of the transmission. Hytran will absorb some water but it is still in there. Gear lube won't necessarily mix with water right away, and you can drain it off the bottom. If you are careful with the drain plug you can let the water out and tighten it back up as soon as oil starts coming out.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 9:32 am    Post subject: Re: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Barnyard's idea is correct and important. Using a CV joint boot on the shifter and RTV silicone on clean deck bolts will help, but condensation should be drained before running the tractor in late fall, or periodically to prevent rust in the gears. These tractors were designed to operte for hours at a time on hot summer days. moisture is driven off by the generated heat when used as designed. When we relegate them to short, never warmed up, conditions they "make" water as noted. Jim
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Has the deck been off it? If so the recessed bolt heads are a prime place for water to get in. They originally had copper washers under the heads. I put a small coating of silicone under the heads and have not had any water problems after doing that.
 
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PostPosted: Tue Mar 02, 2021 2:59 pm    Post subject: Re: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

is there more then one drain plug i found one at the front of the trans is there one at the back under the pto
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 10:02 am    Post subject: Re: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

no the hy tran is not for that tranny use 90-140 unless you want to replace the bearings they were made for 90-140
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 12:01 pm    Post subject: Re: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Yes, there are two plugs.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Mar 05, 2021 8:02 pm    Post subject: Re: oil and water in trans Reply to specific post Reply with quote

There are old post on here dealing with oil in the rear end/transmission. If you store the tractor in the weather rain water will get into the transmission through the gear stick which was not made to keep water out. When these tractors were used often and for long hours the heat would drive off the small amount of water accumulated. We do not use them like that now so you got to shelter it or deal with water in the rear cast frame. Before you crank the tractor remove the drain plug carefully and drain off all the water replacing any trans fluid you lost. Otherwise put it in a shed.
 
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