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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 2:57 am    Post subject: TOH Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sorry if I misunderstood you but I went back and reread my oil
consumption post and after that I still think your suggestion on valve
guides is correct.I have no blowby which is a big factor if the rings
are bad.I did not know the carburetor and the intake manifold had oil
till I posted it that day as my carburetor was dripping gas out the sinister and
was on its way up the air pipe. My needle and seat was the problem and
when I took the carburetor off the gasket was soggy with oil and I ran
a finger up into the intake there was some oil there to. So would I
get oil in the carburetor and intake with bad rings -----and that is
why I wrote I am going with TOH. Also the oil from the air filter was the 1st place I went, It was full and very clear. I put a new needle and seat in too. Could the oil in the carburetor and intake manifold be coming bad guides.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: TOH Reply to specific post Reply with quote

WW2N,Better to preform a accurate leak down test check for compression leaking into the crank case, along with a accurate compression test.Also check air cleaner for dirty screens and correct oil level or even below level or no oil for test.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 07, 2021 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: TOH Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-WW2N wrote:
(quoted from post at 06:57:53 05/07/21) Sorry if I misunderstood you but I went back and reread my oil
consumption post and after that I still think your suggestion on valve
guides is correct.I have no blowby which is a big factor if the rings
are bad.I did not know the carburetor and the intake manifold had oil
till I posted it that day as my carburetor was dripping gas out the sinister and
was on its way up the air pipe. My needle and seat was the problem and
when I took the carburetor off the gasket was soggy with oil and I ran
a finger up into the intake there was some oil there to. So would I
get oil in the carburetor and intake with bad rings -----and that is
why I wrote I am going with TOH. Also the oil from the air filter was the 1st place I went, It was full and very clear. I put a new needle and seat in too. Could the oil in the carburetor and intake manifold be coming bad guides.


Your guess is as good as mine - just guesses. Guessing isn't going to find the problem - controlled testing will.

Personally I would first try to eliminate the air cleaner as a source. Take it off, thoroughly clean the housing, media, and cup and put it back on dry. Or even remove it and put a dry element in its place as a test.

TOH
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 08, 2021 3:42 pm    Post subject: Re: TOH Reply to specific post Reply with quote


"I have no blowby which is a big factor if the rings
are bad."

NOT necessarily!

There are "compression rings" and an "oil control ring".

It's POSSIBLE to have very little "blowby" and good compression, but yet have an "oil burner" if there's something wrong with the "oil control rings". (Worn, broken, stuck, improperly installed, carboned up drain holes in pistons, etc.)
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 09, 2021 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: TOH Reply to specific post Reply with quote

wore out wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:42:18 05/08/21)
"I have no blowby which is a big factor if the rings
are bad."

NOT necessarily!

There are "compression rings" and an "oil control ring".

It's POSSIBLE to have very little "blowby" and good compression, but yet have an "oil burner" if there's something wrong with the "oil control rings". (Worn, broken, stuck, improperly installed, carboned up drain holes in pistons, etc.)


Another piece of wisdom.

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