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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 5:39 pm    Post subject: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I just purchased an allis chalmers roto baler on a sale, never used one before, but like their concept as an Allis loving cousin of mine has a few and he makes nice bales.My question is for a tractor would a Ford 5000 select o speed PowerPoint work to use a roto baler or not? My next choice would be an AC D17 diesel.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 5:52 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

wd and up with hand clutch or power director equipped tractor works best. put her in neutral and let her tie!! to learn how to run I was taught by my older neighbor he made me follow along in the field to watch how it worked right and how it work WRONG !! first baler I ever ran. could bale a lot of bales a day. Raking right made it work ,better. two smaller windows side by side. THE GOOD OLD DAYS!! lol
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 6:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Both are both way to many HP for it. That baler was made to be run with a B or C size tractor. I owned one for one summer and would NEVER own one again. I baled a few hundred bales and pulled it with a B and the B did just fine the problem was if the hay was not raked just right or had to long of the stems it would clog up big time
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 12, 2021 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Did you get the white top one in Washington by chance? I think either will work but the D-17 will look like it was meant to pull it. Mike
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:24 am    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Either tractor would work fine but I'd go with the D17 if I had a choice.Its good to know someone that understands how to run those balers that can help you get started.Once you learn to operate the baler its as simple as it gets and very trouble free.As said raking is the key to successfull baling and always make sure the brake is loose before baling any hay.My dad and I baled thousands of bales with a couple of those balers over the years.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:08 am    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Anything with live power. I remember a neighbor used one with a John Deere A. That was fun to watch. No live power, hand clutch, stop and take it out of gear every bale, push the clutch lever ahead to start the pto, stop it after it spit the bale out and put the tractor back in gear.

Dad had one for one season. Ran it with an Oliver 66 with live power. The first time the pickup stopped to put the twine on, he thought he broke something.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:45 am    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My dad baled with one hooked to an AC B quite an operation,on a hill he'd knock the B out of gear to tie the bale then hold the hand brakes and put the B in 1st gear with his knee while holding the clutch.When we bought the WD45 baling became a lot easier.They were a cheap baler to run,used binder twine and hardly ever needed any repairs.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 5:51 am    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

trouble with tractor with live or ipto is clucth pedal will take a toll on your left knee !! also hard on throwout bearings. I rest my case.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 3:29 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Brother & I put up 10,000 of those little round bales one summer, mid '50's, in central Nebraska with a JD Model MT, no live pto, on the baler. Those who say the guy doing the raking makes the bales sure knows what he's talking about!
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote


Old, a Allis B or C is ok to run a roto baler on level ground in light hay or when baling straw. I have used one with a WD and in the hills the baler would push the WD when stopping going down hill. In heavy hay the baler made the govenor on the WD open up when a heavy slug went in the chamber.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 13, 2021 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Allis rotobaler Reply to specific post Reply with quote

You're right the AC hand clutch set up is made for the Roto Baler,I also like to use it on a big round baler.The AC 185 works great don't have to touch the gearshift or the foot clutch.
 
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