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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 6:51 pm    Post subject: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I bought a 986, yeaaaahh! I had been looking, going to sales, decided I preferred a 886 or 986 over a 966 or 766. It's in average condition, better than some I'd seen that had set out, and the nicer ones were more expensive. Has 10,000 hours, T/A works, $8,000, everything seems to work, AM/FM 8-track, ha!

Now I have to go get it this weekend. I've rented an F-350 and 20,000lb capacity gooseneck trailer, like this one. Trailer has 14,000 lb load capacity, Tractordata says the 986 is 13,000 working weight.

The questions I would like to ask:
Should I back it on?
Should I drive the tractor forward onto the trailer, or should I back it on?

Also: Where should I put the back wheels on the trailer? The trailer is much longer than the tractor. If I drive on forward, I would probably put the front wheels at the front of the trailer.
If I back on, then I'm not sure how close to the front of the trailer I should park it, how much of the weight should be on the pickup.

In this picture, I'm guessing the big tires are about 10 ft from the front of the trailer.

Thank you!




 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Drive it on forwards until the rear of the truck goes down about 4 to 6 inches.Lock
the brakes, put it in gear or park position, chain it on all 4 corners.If it has a
turbocharger, securely block the top of the exhaust pipe to prevent the turbo from
spinning. Drive carefully and good luck with it.

Ben
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would drive it on forward and put the rear wheels between or slightly ahead of the trailer axles.
 
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 29, 2021 10:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

On a gooseneck I pull on . With a bumper pull I back on







 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 3:03 am    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote



Your objective in front to back placement is to have an adequate but not excessive share of the load on the truck in order to have proper braking and to keep the "tail from wagging the dog" and causing a loss of control. Your easiest way to do this is as Centash posted: pull it on until you get a good amount of settling of the back of the truck. I think that 3-5 inches would be best.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote


I agree. They all gave you good advice. I have a goose neck also and it works the best as they posted.
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 9:48 am    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote



If I'm just hauling one tractor they always go on the trailer forward...I want the rear axle of the tractor I'm hauling centered between the tandem duals on the trailer,some
times maybe just a few inches more forward....The Ford 6000 puller pictured weighs 5000 lbs but I also load my 10,500 lb IH 1466 puller the same way....Its worked
good...Backing them on puts too much weight on the truck..
 
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PostPosted: Fri Apr 30, 2021 5:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Just like this.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 6:46 am    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

A short distance to new home..:)

Bob..









 
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PostPosted: Sat May 01, 2021 8:02 am    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote



Bob, I am glad that you saved that Combine but it must have been a white knuckle ride, LOL.
 
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PostPosted: Sun May 02, 2021 2:43 am    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That is exactly how I load my 1086 or 806 or 756 on my dual tandem trailer.
 
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PostPosted: Mon May 17, 2021 9:17 am    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I had a tailgate party. I had 4 guys sit on my
tailgate, combined weight 1000#. I used tape
measure and determined the distance from the top
of rear wheel to inside wheel fender. 1000#
compressed the rear springs about 3/4 inch.

So I use that as my guide to obtaining 1000#
tongue weight on bumper hitch.
Works for me. 1000# for 10,000 # trailer about
10%

Use distance your rear springs compress and find
your sweet spot trial and error.
 
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PostPosted: Thu May 20, 2021 6:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I just pile them on until there's no room left. However, I didn't trying hauling both the 5020 and 4020 together.


 
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 3:23 am    Post subject: Re: Where put tractor on trailer? Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-jdknucklebuster wrote:
(quoted from post at 19:49:19 05/20/21) I just pile them on until there's no room left. However, I didn't trying hauling both the 5020 and 4020 together.

<img src=/cvphotos/cvphoto89058.jpg>



jdknucklebuster, I wanted to follow the same philosophy and put on a third one, but when I tried it I couldn't figure out a way to thread my straps. I was going to install some D-rings in the deck but never got to it.
 
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