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rustred
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 1:40 pm    Post subject: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

can fix a tractor, but not my quad starter. WTH! dam magnets are glued to the case and all got wiped off and stuck to armature. wonder if there is a strong epoxy to re-glue them? lucky happened at home , as no rope start, or push start. thought honda was better than that. new honda starter 423.00 jobber 152.00 going with the jobber.

 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 1:59 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

If you try to epoxy it, dont mix the poles of the magnets up.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:00 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I would make sure i put them where they came from, and use gorilla epoxy C clamping them for a day.
Epoxy

 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 2:20 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Have you checked Amazon? I have to put a new one on my Yamaha every few years. I couldn't tell you right off the top of my head what I've been paying, but they're cheap in my opinion.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

That would be my luck, starter runs backward.

I'm cheap, but I would spring for a new starter.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 3:27 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I epoxied one in, and it was also broken! It worked.

But I would be hesitant to try all four. It's essential they go in the exact location and polarity. Not much to loose if you can see where they go and the direction by the old glue print. There is very little clearance between the magnets and the armature. They must seat completely against the case, clamped until the epoxy sets.

Good luck!
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 4:41 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Same here. I have to replace the starter in my JD Buck every few years. I think JD wanted $500 for one. The exact starter through Amazon was around $60. It's been a couple years so I expect it has went up some but I doubt they've matched Jd pricing yet.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 5:12 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

i have a new jobber one on order. not going to fool around with trying to glue 6 magnets and 2 are split in half. as you see they are stuck onto the armature here. if i had only the honda 400.00 starter available, i would be tempted to try the fix.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 5:38 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Nobody you know has tried to make that thing crank by beating on the starter have they? On lawnmowers, if we find broken magnets, we can usually find pecker marks on the case.

You need a new starter, with the broken magnets, it will never work right again. Instead of having 4 fields, now you have 6 and they are not going to work with the armature which is set up for 4 fields.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Bought one off ebay for $38, free shipping for my Honda Rancher. Higher priced ones for 183 to $225...cheap one has a Honda trademark and works great.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 8:13 pm    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Did you read what I posted? I already know what u posted, plus it has 6 magnets not 4 as u guys are telling me. All I asked if it was possible to reglue the magnets back on. But with no clearance in between the magnets and armature and 2 broken magnets its not worth even trying. I have fixed lots of tractor and vehicle starters but nothing like these Cracker Jack prizes.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 2:33 am    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Used to work in a motor rewind shop and every once in a while a milk hauler would bring on his DC pump with the magnets loose. We always sold them a new motor.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:04 am    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

So a couple of guys got the magnet count wrong. Is that worth an attack? You've been around a while, and you know that trying to get an exact answer for an exact question in an online forum is like herding cats.

If it makes you feel any better, I'll fix it:

"Instead of having 6 fields, now you have 8 and they are not going to work with the armature which is set up for 6 fields."

"But I would be hesitant to try all six."

I'm curious though, how old is the machine? Original starter?
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Ordered a $69.95 starter from Amazon for my Honda Foreman in December of 2019 and it has worked perfectly.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 5:13 am    Post subject: Re: i cant fix this. Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I've done 2 with JB Weld. One magnet in my Minn Koda trolling motor was broke into 4 pieces. The other was a snowmobile starter. Both are still going after 2 years. The biggest issue was spacing properly and holding in place while setting.
 
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