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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 5:46 pm    Post subject: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

We pulled this old hay rake out of the weeds today. It is tractor pto driven. There are 4 tine bars, 10 feet long. There is a three speed gearbox. It appears to have had orange paint originally. Could it be AC? Any help would be appreciated!
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 5:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

No picture. However, if it has a caster wheel on the right front, it's probably an A-C PTO tedder rake. One gearbox position runs the reel in reverse for back tedding.
 
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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 5:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

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PostPosted: Tue May 18, 2021 6:11 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Thanks Timmy, I see now that one position on the gearbox is marked tedding.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 3:50 am    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote




A friend had one of those years ago. 2X what Tommycornpicker said. It didn't work well for us as either a tedder or rake due to its length. Our ground wasn't smooth enough for it so it would leave wet bunches.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 4:47 am    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

I remember a neighbor had one of those. It sat in the weeds for a while after they quit farming. Dad stopped one time and asked Art if he'd sell it. He told Dad that rake was the reason he quit. Said if he had to farm with junk like that, he might as well quit.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 6:08 am    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Alis Chalmers tedding rake. High;Low;Tedding.I had one once,acctually worked pretty good.Built about the time frame as the AC letter series.
 
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PostPosted: Wed May 19, 2021 8:43 am    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Sounds like some of my junk.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 6:06 am    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

And I would have liked to have had one when I was farming. As far as the length someone mentioned NONE of that style would have suited them as every 4 wheel rake ever made would have been same problem for them.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 7:16 am    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Leroy wrote:
(quoted from post at 07:06:31 05/21/21) And I would have liked to have had one when I was farming. As far as the length someone mentioned NONE of that style would have suited them as every 4 wheel rake ever made would have been same problem for them.



Exactly Leroy! which is why they haven't been made in sixty years, LOL.
 
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PostPosted: Fri May 21, 2021 7:26 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

Actually that style rake does a better raking job than the parallel bar rakes made since then. They make a nice tight row instead of the fluff ball that the wind blows all over and are too wide for some baler pickups. I do not like the new tractor rakes.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 2:06 am    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

CVPost-Leroy wrote:
(quoted from post at 20:26:53 05/21/21) Actually that style rake does a better raking job than the parallel bar rakes made since then. They make a nice tight row instead of the fluff ball that the wind blows all over and are too wide for some baler pickups. I do not like the new tractor rakes.



Yes Leroy, that is why everyone that has one of the rotary rakes which have pretty much replaced the more modern roll-a-bar rakes, calls the old roll-a-bar rakes "rope makers". Here in the Northeast the ground often has a lot of moisture so we need high fluffy windrows in order for it to dry. My JD 640 has the basket set to lift the hay so that it will be high and fluffy so that the air can get in. Around here we need to dry our hay before baling in order to get good money for it. The horse people don't like mold.
 
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 3:48 am    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My dad bought one of those AC pto takes brand new when he bought his AC Roto-Baler. They could rake hay in any direction, and yes they could Ted hay also. The AC Roto-Baler required a very large heavy windrow in order to make bales that were even in size and not thimble shape. Most making negative comments about the AC pto rake have never had one or used one. While as a rake they did an excellent job of cleaning the field and making a tall fluffy windrow but... it wasnt a machine that you could send a inexperienced operator out with, unlike most rakes. The operator needed to understand how the machine worked, as its drive was both complicated and somewhat flimsy. And that front castor wheel could easy be damaged if it was dropped into a hole. Not everyone has smooth fields, and often rough ground, or excessive speed causes damage to hay equipment, and the AC rake couldnt take abuse. Myself I wouldnt buy one of these rakes to actually use anymore, they are all really to old and just Museum/Show pieces. There are better options available that are easier and safer to operate without a pto. Like this wheel rake.

 
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PostPosted: Sat May 22, 2021 12:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Help I.D. hay rake Reply to specific post Reply with quote

My dad and Uncle bought one new in 1948, and always pulled it with an 8n Ford. They added the optional extra wheels and Dad later moved the extra front over to the left side. In 1989 when the farm was sold, that rake was well worn, but still very usable. They had bought an 55t IH baler, this AC rake, but everything else was Ford, and later in 1956, added an IH tractor and equipment for it. Why they bought an AC machine I never knew-no local dealer, but the only thing it ever needed was rake teeth. It was big and maybe awkward, but it worked well for us, especially hooked to the 8n. Mark.
 
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